people living inside the united states legally so you can protect the tax system, you can protect the services and the benefits. one of the things that the president believes, and he said and he referenced it today that border officials, dhs people believe that there has to be a wall in certain areas. that s what s always been said. he is new to this. that s always been the position of border experts. that s all i m saying. he is not new to it. when john kennedy was telling people in 1960 that there was a missile gap, and he campaigned hard on a missile gap. and ike was upset with him over it. and when he got to the office and he was in the situation room and he saw the missiles and he realized that we were in a missile surplus, not a missile gap. so he was wrong. is that something to be rewarded? no, you re missing the point. it s not that he is wrong. when you re coming as a candidate and you have less information than you do as a president, smart people, people that are
they change their position and they alter themselves. and so every politician has to do that. that is wrong. hold on a second. president obama i m with him on this. i m pro-gay marriage, as you know. i m for all of the social progressive things. that s not about facts. he was against gay marriage. he changed his mind, he said he grew in his perspective. that s not about how many missiles you have or whether or not a wall is what s needed by experts. you don t want to give the president any credit. it s not true. i just wanted to be honest about how we arrived at this new position. the president has new information. it s not a good analogy. that you offer up for it. let me ask you something else while i have you. two things. two quick things. your viewers are listening and thinking that s a pretty good analogy. it s a pretty good conversation and i appreciate you for it. do you think daca deserves a clean bill? nothing attached to it? do that, get it done and the
supposedly there is consensus that these are not the people to villai villainize, even if you want to go on a campaign of getting people out of the country, this is not where to start. so if he is to construct some type of compromise. so take him at his word. we will see. as i said, the spell was broken. he was so different today. there is a fundamental distinction that you re ignoring. wait a minute. he was saying totally different things. bannon is out. and now whether coincidence or not, he is saying very different things. you re saying it s because he wants to get a deal done. he had the democratic leadership cut a deal on the budget to raise the ceiling. he met with democratic leadership early on this is different. daca. this is different. it is different and it should be refreshing. the fact he s going to davos should be refreshing. hang on a second. one step at a time. there s a difference between a position and a principle, okay? the wall was a principle. i wa
democrats do too are teed up also. the one thing that is, quote, controversial, is the wall. but as you heard from the president, he s flexible that the wall can be, yes, some wall and some other things in addition to the wall. border format is essential to this proposal. i get the interest in enforcement. i don t know who isn t against a safe border to be honest with you. we haven t been spending the money on it. there s a lot of money spent on the border and they want to spend more, that s more. they have to justify it to the voters. but you heard the president, he s flexible now. do we know that? i can t tell you. jennifer said the president is not as dogmatic as i would be if i were president of the united states. hooe he s not driven by ideology. he wants results.
prima facie evidence of new data showing that hillary clinton had said to the egyptian ambassador, a day after the incident, that had nothing to do with the video and spent the next week or two telling that to the country and to the father of one of those who fell. the most damning evidence i can imagine, it s something you would have started a hearing with and would have had tremendous impact and they didn t succeed. they ended up, the image is the way it s been received, she had a triumph. if you can t score on that you re not going to score on this. george admits it s not going to pass through the senate. this is a waste of energy. if the intent is as chaffetz says to restore confidence in the irs, you know how you do that? you win the white house, you appoint a new irs commissioner and then you get an uncompromised doj to go in and to prosecute lois lerner. final word? well the irs is the most intrusive and potentially