million volunteers. you want to put a number on this reverend al? like in 2020? we served 60 million people, 6.7 billion meals. in 2021, one 53 million people still needed to rely upon the charitable food system. i want to be a part of breaking that wheel, i don t want them to have to stand in the line to be able to feed their babies. i want to make certain that we participate in positive change. i know that we can, i will we have a lot of companies after the show. well i hope so too, thank you miss claire babineaux-fontenot, a ceo of feeding america. thank you for being with us. tomorrow on politicsnation, the director of the new msnbc film when truth isn t truth, the rudy giuliani story joins me right here on set. i was interviewed as a part of the series and it explores giuliani s rise to power, fall from grace and how little he changed through all of it.
actual malice and the judge in this case in his order said, proof of actual malice calls a defendant s state of mind into question and does not readily lend itself to summary disposition. that s at the very beginning of the case before none of this discovery comes out. and so now that you ve had all of this discovery and you ve seen that they all knew it wasn t true, what s really important about the law is what dominion argues, it says, yet fox despite knowing the truth or at a minimum recklessly disregarding that truth fox spread and endorsed outlandish voter fraud claims about dominion even as it internally recognized the lies as shocking and reckless. it s so hard to defeat a first amend defense when claiming defamation yet this is a rare case where it is so obvious on its face that fox knew what it was putting on the air was false or it recklessly chose to put something on the air that was false. this never happens but why is fox defending this? normally you would see a settlement
sure it gets done so a question that our legal colleagues can address in some ways but from a journalistic standpoint you re not seeing any adherence to any commonly held notices of where you find fact and truth and credibility. there s an important marker here. i was i can t remember i think i was still a republican, obviously i had worked on the mccain campaign in 08 when after the election, fox news didn t challenge the results of president obama s victory. they started challenging the entire agenda. what is represented here is a real, you know, lowering of the discourse to not accepting the results of an election and not having the courage or the backbone or the confidence in the entire network to deliver an accurate result of a national presidential election. where do we go from there? well, i mean you saw the chief executive of fox lash out
cannel. i ll keep talking and spreading my truth and healing as i see fit. nobody turns the channel when you re talking. people listen. i want to ask you about how accountability fits into this because you have been so clear like your clarity, and that was the very first public hearing of the january 6th select committee. before they went prime time in hollywood you testified before the january 6th select committee with simple times. we as a country haven t done that yet. how does that land with you? i i kind of botched it a little bit. everyone knew what i meant, but i missed the words around, but everyone knew what i meant by that analogy.
true they privately attacked sydney powell and rudy giuliani. that s a little disheartening. they did that privately but they knew it was a lie. they knew it was true and we found out in january 6th one of the hearings when they got the text messages from fox news, they knew how bad it was, and yet they attacked us and things they knew were true and we were telling the truth about it. not even disheartening, it makes you angry and more dismissive of them and they don t have any credibility at all. actually if you remember i don t who had remember yet. you have to watch it to remember, but the day we testified, that night laura ingram presented all four of us with superlative awards like we were crisis actors. crisis actors. the biggest exaggeration went to i think it was michael fanone, and, you know, the political award went to me.