about within the realm of the southern district investigation, they ll know whether he tells the truth and if he lies he ll be in much more trouble. and as he testified in public, the question of his credibility. lies to congress before and going back in front of congress and lanny davis he was his lawyer and now his legal adviser. lanny davis is a political player. he has a political ax to grind here that is obvious. in terms of the credibility, is there an add add threshold that cohen has to if he s going to have chilling revelations here, as lanny davis is say, is there an added threshold and what would that be. it is hard for them in real-time to be able to evaluate the veracity of what he s saying. only after the fact they realized what he had represented to congress about when they stopped talking about the moscow trump tower deal was inaccurate and that mueller surfaced. so it is hard for them to do
to answer questions about russia and the trump tower deal, what went on there. why did trump want to keep it secret. who asked him to call putin s office for help which he did and how did that play itself out. what is the relationship between trump and felix saider who trump lied about who wayne the middle of that deal. trump said he didn t know who he was in the campaign. that was obviously a big major lie. there are a lot of russian related things. just as important, $300 million and loan from deutsche bank we don t understand that trump got, other business dealings that are very curious to put it politely. those are things michael cohen should be able to talk about. i hope members of congress, democrats, not republicans, have done homework, know where to dig. and that brings us to something else, when david talks about digging, there s a whole line of questioning tomorrow if members of the committee are
from reading the tea leaves in some of these indictments, but there are so many threads that have come up in various indictments including the trump tower deal that was in michael cohen s plea agreements that we sort of haven t seen the resolution of, but i don t understand why they would put them out there if they weren t sort of material to a bigger case. all right. also kind of like on the topic, you had an interesting take this week when it came barr, the new attorney general. in saying that, no, he s not trying to shut down this case at all. he has something else that s at play there. i ve called it a conspiracy of the righteous. not an unlawful conspiracy, but barr wrote a memo unlike any memo i saw in my 30 years as a prosecutor. 19 pages. 19 pages. the second sentence of it barr said, listen, i admit i don t know anything about the facts of the case but let me give you my uninformed opinion on the wall. why would he do that? if you don t know the facts you can t render
did they somehow think that they were going to get in trouble? i m going to lie to stay out of trouble. that part the investigation will have to determine. that would make sense. we see it all the time. you lie because you want to cover up what you were doing. here they keep saying, we have nothing to cover up. there is nothing wrong about this. the meeting in trump tower was fine for us to take it. but then why did you lie about it? why did you come up with that statement? why did you say the president had nothing to do with it and then he did? it s like they re making their own trouble. how do you see it? the third example is mike cohen trying to work the trump tower moscow deal in this. and the president is lying about it. this is a case you have clear evidence they knew what they were doing is wrong because they were lying about it. you can see an alternate scenario in the trump tower deal
scenario in the trump tower deal where the president donald trump is out there on the campaign trail saying, look, i m the world s smartest businessman. we can fix this regulationship with putin. i know because i m fixing the relationship with putin. i m going to build this great building in the midst of moscow. i alone can figure out how to make the deal with putin. and the fact that he didn t say that and covered it up and covered it up for two years gives you some sense there is a guilty mind at work in these situations. yeah. look, i got to tell you. i m listening to you and processing it. it s hard for me to put it together, mike. i thought i had seen everything. i covered so much shady stuff. i saw every creative way that somebody commits a crime for 12 years. but this just doesn t make sense. the special counsel offered up