Im stephen sackur. One of the most extraordinary features of the first months of the Trump Presidency has been the deepening sense of a war between the white house and the so called Mainstream Media, and top of the president s enemies list, well, its the New York Times, The Grand Old Lady of american newspapers which mr trump portrays as a purveyor of lies. Well, my guest today is the Executive Editor of the times, dean baquet. Is what is printed in here fake news or fair . Dean baquet, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you. Good to be here. I think we have to start with the relationship between President Trump and the established, he would say mainstream, media. This is something you said, even before he was elected, the month before he won the white house. You said, trump says things that are demonstrably false, i think he is challenging our language he will have changed journalism, he really will. Yeah. How do you feel after more than 100 days of the Trump Presidency . He has. And i think
With governments now, but your whole career basically sounds as though you have been banging your head against a brick wall. Did you learn some lessons from that . Of course, of course. What lessons did you draw . It seems like the only lesson you took was, you know what, after a while you betray your best friends in politics . No. I dont agree with that at all. I bet you know. I bet you know how do you feel as president that you are going to go down in history as a president who presided over a loss of a large part of your territory . I understood that you wished to do this interview, and you wished to reply to questions that we, In The Name Of the bbc, are putting towards you. Am i not right . Yeah, cheers. Hardtalk. To the next 20 years well you got water and ive got wine . thats terrible our show has a name which gives you a very strong clue as to what youre going to get. And i do wonder sometimes whether calling the Programme Hardtalk has been a huge advantage, because it cuts thr
With governments now, but your whole career basically sounds as though you have been banging your head against a brick wall. Did you learn some lessons from that . Of course, of course. What lessons did you draw . It seems like the only lesson you took was, you know what, after a while you betray your best friends in politics . No. I dont agree with that at all. I bet you know. I bet you know how do you feel as president that you are going to go down in history as a president who presided over a loss of a large part of your territory . I understood that you wished to do this interview, and you wished to reply to questions that we, In The Name Of the bbc, are putting towards you. Am i not right . Yeah, cheers. Hardtalk. To the next 20 years well you got water and ive got wine . thats terrible our show has a name which gives you a very strong clue as to what youre going to get. And i do wonder sometimes whether calling the Programme Hardtalk has been a huge advantage, because it cuts thr
Neighborhoods, the smartest people who work for you in your staff, they all live in the same neighborhood. Whether theyre black or white or asian. Theres this book written, theres a test if you are part of the new elite. The new elite are corporate executives, really quality lawyers, doctors and because its now at the point where it is meritbased, whether youre part of the elite, weve kind of forgotten about ordinary americans out there. And so, its like, it drove my boys crazy. It had them take the test in the book and it said, have you ever been on a Factory Floor . Were you raised in a neighborhood where over 60 of the people Didnt Go To College . If you get a chance to go to starbucks or mcdonalds for coffee, where do you go . Do you know anybody who has whole milk if their refrigerator . Because Everybody Else has skim milk . Elitist. So part of it is that its
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Analysis of Media Coverage of news stories. Ive said that to Sarah Huckabee sanders. Ill continue saying that. The war started when steve bannon at cpac said the press was an Opposition Party and the enemy. Its wrong. I support the president. You dont have to be on side on every single issue. I dont believe in litmus tests. I think hes done a very, very good job. His speech away from the rhetoric about the press was very good last night. What about the idea that no one that people are telling him to drop this rhetoric and hes not listening. Is this why you wasnt in the job longer . He dupoesnt want to hear this advice . I made a mistake and got fired by john kelly for that mistake. I bear the accountability for that. Im telling you that the most loyal people, your most loyal employee, your most loyal staff are offering you constructive advice and telling you balls and strikes the way they see them as
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