a long-term obstacle, not a passing nuance. a long-term obstacle, not a passing nuisance, not nuance, excuse me. nuisance. so, cheri, to you first, what do you think? that s why i m saying is this bush 2.0? well, he s taking on trump. he s saying if this is a serious candidate, and the polls say he is, he needs to be held to account like any other candidate. rather than letting this die out, this trump phenomena, whatever you want to call it, he s taking it on. that s a little feistier, that s a different plan, and it s probably the right plan that they all should do. so you think this is the jeb bush that voters want to see? i think so. and i think that a lot of it, too, is just becoming accustomed to the different candidates and the different personalities. if his authentic self is measured and more thoughtful, i don t think he should turn it on too much and try to out-trump trump. nobody should want to do that. when you look at how he s doing
real problems. reporter: cruz is holding a rally in iowa tonight as he tries to tap into the trump phenomena. some of your rivals are trying to figure out how to run against donald trump. you seem to be running with him. i m a big fan of donald trump and sit a mistake for other republicans to take a stick to donald trump and try to whack him. people are talking about anchor babies. those are human beings and ultimately they re people. they re not just statistics. reporter: and for jeb bush, the term became a problem of his own making after he used the phrase himself in an interview. governor, do you regret using the term anchor babies on the radio? no, i didn t i don t. i don t regret it. do you have a better term? i m not i m asking you. you give me a better term and i ll use it. i m serious.
grows, then we can see in 2016 and going forward latinos coming together, making sure they register to vote and turning out in unprecedented levels. if the trump phenomena dies out perhaps this doesn t happen. but if we keep seeing the level of support that trump has, which is 24% in the latest cnn poll, i think that latinos may be mobilizing and in particular for the democratic party. and michelle, it seems that everything that donald trump is working in his favor. nothing is hurting donald trump with the gop and potential voters. not immigration, not the debate, not even his compensates about megyn kelly. i d like to put there up in fact. the new poll finds trump s favorability at 60% with republican women. in their eyes what is it that donald trump is doing right? ayman, i wish i had an answer for you. but i have been thinking about it since these polls came out in late july and i honestly cannot figure out it out. other than the fact that donald
it s true, but the level of discourse that surrounds us. look at the trump phenomena and what it plays to. i see shades of morton downey jr. where a member of congress shouted out to the president of the united states, you lie, to a joint session of congress. it was not like this predowney. he was the transformation of talk radio on a local basis. ideology didn t used to matter. what mattered was your ability to interact with telephone callers. this was the beginning of everybody reading from the same talking point. trump and downey were good friends at the time. there were images we can show. downey lived in the trump tower when it first opened. do you see influence in trump s presidential campaign? the trump appeal is likely to
behind donald trump there, why do you think that is? well, look, i think it s early in the campaign. i think frankly, i m no more capable of explaining the trump phenomena than anybody else, it is that. i truly believe that as time goes on, a major foreign policy speech like jeb bush gave is the kind of thing that we need to see happening an candidates begin to define themselves. and frankly, give the country an idea of what they would be like as president. that s what he needs to do with the people of iowa, he ll come and come often and try to knock on doors and let people know him better. and frankly, i just have known governor bush for a long time, if people get to know him, they ll respond better. i think a work in progress and much work to be done ahead. he was, some say, he stumbled or he was not very strong in the debate last week. is jeb bush a, someone who can energize crowds and get people to understand how he feels in a