and even the summer of and even as of today, we d still like to know, that s why we ve suspended the dnc operatives that they refuse to subpoena. we sent a letter this morning. i doubt we ll see those suspense. we want to know exactly, get to the bottom of exactly who were these democratic operatives that were dirtying up the trump campaign in 2016. they just can t get over that the president would send his personal attorney over there, to try to get to the bottom of that and ambassador, you had very few dealings with rudy guiliani, a few text messages. a few text messages and a few phone calls. all right. so, the whistleblower trying to put together here with their time line, they seem to have a time line problem, because the whistleblower that only they know who they won t subpoena, who clearly mr. vindman knows who they blocked testimony yesterday from, would not allow mr. vindman to answer our
did the president ever tell you personally about any pre conditions for anything? no. okay. so the president never told you about any pre conditions for aid to be released? no the president 97 tonever you about pre conditions for a white house meeting? . personally, no. you said you didn t have your records or documents in the state department, but if you did, there wouldn t be any document or record that ties president trump personally to any of this. correct? i don t want to speculate what would be your documents or records? i don t recall anything like that. . no. good heavens. okay. you testified mr. guiliani s requests for a quid pro quo for the white house meeting, and you indicated that you believe that was, he was advancing president trump s interests, correct? my contact with mr. guiliani began as i said very late in the process after august 1st, when i
take me down. that s correct. tried to take him down. i think any logical person that wants to do two plus two equals four games would say that that was in the 2016 election. wasn t it? i believe that s what he was referring to, yes, ranking member. so, during all of this time, remember, in the spring, the democrat s russia hoax witch hunt is still ongoing. they re still claiming that president trump is a russian agent. they re out to get they re out to get president trump at the time. his personal attorney is then interested in trying to figure out, who are these ukrainians that are trying to get to my candidate? as those of us, the republicans on this committee, who are also trying to get to the bottom of who were the sources in the steel dossier that the democrats had paid for? the house republicans wanted to know that all through the spring
for all the supposed bombshells that were in your opening testimony. i want to get back to the facts of the matter here. and the thing that the democrats have been unwilling to accept is that their operatives got campaign dirt ukranians in the 2016 election. now, they know it. they know it s true. because we have financial records that show it. so they were, the democrats were heavily involved working with ukrainians to dirty up the trump campaign in 2016. so ambassador, i want to go through a few of the incidents that we know. i know you may not know all about them. you may know about them now. but i want to walk through some of those examples of why the president may be very upset with ukraine and think that their country that s out to get him as i think both you ve said that and ambassador volker have said
us. you believed him? when we had the conversation, i did. you started discussing the concerns the president had with corruption, burisma wasn t the only company that was mentioned, right? it was a generic as i think i testified to chairman schiff, it was a generic corruption, oligarchs, just bad stuff going on in ukraine. but other companies came up, didn t they? i don t know if they were mentioned specifically. it might have been nafta gas because we were working on another issue with nafta gas, so that might have been one of them. at one point in your deposition you said nafta gas comes up at every conversation. is that fair? probably. okay. y i guess dr. hill at one point