conversations and for cohen to breech it right out of the gate, you can see how he will be interested in open testimony. that makes them far more accessible and it s reasonable for them to say the ground rules. you understand why they wouldn t at least want to take advantage of michael cohen and question him for four or five hours and he may not be under oath and you cannot lie to a senate committee, that s perjury. that s right. i would say let s go forward. he did breech the protocol that is wrong, but we have him here. he has important information to tell us about trump s russia doles for the trump moscow property. let s get it and say to him later, do you that again to us