interesting. the fear, right, the fear that everyone would have is that there s somebody who is just some diabolical genius, some sherlock holmes who can beat a lie detector and manages to get themselves on the jury and they have an absolute love affair with trump in their mind or they absolutely hate the man. how likely it is, both of these sides are highly qualified lawyers, how likely is it you could have a mole? it s not like jesse waters is correct, but how likely you could have someone who could get through the entire process, scrub their social media, and made it absolutely incapable of knowing how strongly they feel purely for the purposes of throwing the case for trump or against trump? i think it s highly unlikely. it s much less likely than john grisham or movie director might have you believe. what s much more likely is that
people may think that they can set aside their prejudices but all people always have subconscious feelings. i think realistically, the biggest thing that trump is looking for are not a hidden mole. they would have trouble finding that person if that person existed. i really think his lawyers are looking for people who look at the obvious and see things that are not obvious. the people who think that maybe there is a flat earth or maybe we re all part of a computer simulation. looking for people who are a little unusual. and see the world differently, but i don t really think you have to be too worried about the diabolical john grisham-like scenario. i mean, if you walk into the jury room wearing a maga hat saying birds aren t real and you re a patriots fan, maybe they think you re pro trump. katie, one of the other elements of this is, again, we talked about trump s danger, some of the problems he presents. and he has already violated his
the system and your fellow citizens in georgia suffered from that. we don t know how that message is resonating. there s really not any good empirical data that could lead me to any conclusions on how republicans can game out better turnout for trump. right now, it s a bit of a guessing game. i also think it s important you have a large number of republicans who have flipped the script. they previously hated donald trump and now they love the guy. i ll play sound from that. it is a horror show when he s left to his own devices. and so you may want his policies but trump will not deliver trump policies. he will deliver
in the trial where the judge has power. so i think judge merchan, both in instructing the press as you mentioned earlier, and in controlling the courtroom, is starting to come with ways to put pressure on trump and get him to behave. katie, one of the things that s been really interesting to me in the jury selection is trying to find that sweet spot. there s absolutely nobody on this panel tonight who would ever get on a jury. like, they don t like lawyers, they don t like journalists, they don t like educators. i don t know, jason. first, i apologize, but there are lawyers that are on this jury. so lawyers do make it. you would be surprised. go ahead. that s what i wanted to ask about. what s the mind set behind that? generally speaking, and my knowledge, you re afraid of people like that. if i m a lawyer, i m thinking, oh, my goodness. if this lawyer is in agreement with my argument, they re going to be sort of my paralegal in the jury room, but if they don t
we could slide him different information or news articles he could read while the long proceedings were going on, anything to keep him focused so he wouldn t get up and walk out. i think it s going to be difficult for donald to sit through eight weeks of these proceedings. sometimes they re not exciting, sometimes they re very boring. and as you heard, he sometimes falls asleep during these sessions. and omarosa, also i wonder about this. if he starts to hear testimony that he doesn t like or that he s frustrated by or he doesn t believe in, is there a chance that he s going to blow up or he s going to blurt out and how would his lawyers try to handle that? i would absolutely say it s highly likely. you know, during the campaign, one of the things we used to say is let trump be trump. the worst place you can allow trump to be trump is in a courtroom. because donald trump will express himself. if he hears something he doesn t like, he cannot hide it, nor can he control his expressio