have, with remarkable women who have been leaders in afghanistan over the last 20 years, who have advanced the rights of women and girls with our very, very strong support. i met with a number of them just a few months ago the last time i was in kabul this spring. i think it is incumbent on the international community including the united states to do everything we can using every tool we have, economic, diplomatic, political to work to sustain their rights. and at the same time as i said to make sure that if the taliban does not do that, if it is in charge, that it clearly faces the penalties for not upholding those rights. we will do everything we can to make sure that is the case. everything except use the u.s. military. president biden is intent on avoiding a saigon moment, a reference of course to the hasty and humiliating u.s. evacuation from vietnam. but with this troop surge to air lift americans out of afghanistan aren t we already in the midst of a saigon moment? no we re
we will do everything we can to make sure that is the case. everything except use the u.s. military. president biden is intent on avoiding a saigon moment, a reference of course to the hasty and humiliating u.s. evacuation from vietnam. but with this troop surge to air lift americans out of afghanistan, aren t we already in the midst of a saigon moment? no we re not. remember, this is not saigon. we went to afghanistan 20 years ago with one mission. and that mission was to deal with the folks who attacked us on 9/11. we have succeeded in that mission. the objective we set bringing those who attacked us to justice, making sure they couldn t attack us again from afghanistan, we ve succeeded in that mission. in fact we succeeded a while ago. at the same time, remaining in afghanistan for another one, five, ten years is not in the national interest.
are we being punked as americans by the taliban? we are miles away from the twin towers right now, you and i. why which went in there. we have a responsibility to do to do something. our ally haves a responsibility to do something. this is not okay. this is a humanitarian nuclear bomb we can change. just the idea having 2500 troops in, that psychologically will allow seven million girls to be educated. it will allow three million girls to graduate from high school this year. we cannot leave we shall not leave. we have a responsibility. yeah, that troop surge we just put in there to protect the airport and the embassy has alone possibly stopped kabul from collapsing. so thank you for your passionate input into this and the work you ve done for women and girls in afghanistan. as you said this is a humanitarian nuclear bomb that we are watching right now. thank you for your time and efforts. thank you for having me, ali. kimber motly international human rights and civil rights att
equal to what has been seen here during the previous serious waves. all right. phil black joining us there. many thanks. former u.s. president george w. bush is warning the u.s. pullout from afghanistan is a mistake. just ahead, what he predicts life will be look for women and girls under taliban rule. plus south africa is planning a troop surge as it tries to get days of violence and chaos under control. we ll have a live report. wet dishes? residue? spots? it s not your dishwasher s fault. simply add finish jetdry 3in1 to rinse, dry and shine your dishes. solve 3 problems at once with finish jetdry 3in1.
with, look, it s a sudden withdrawal. you have the taliban gaining ground. biden was a proponent of the war at its zwrs outwset, but he did on the mission when obama wanted to do that troop surge. here we are, looking at this taliban surge. do you think he ll regret this decision? i hope not, but he very well may. i think there s a good reason why even previous presidents i including president obama, were frustrated with the continuing war in afghanistan. they didn t pull out because they were afraid of the risks of doing so. we saw that in iraq where we pulled out in 2011 and you saw the rise of i.csis, so therefor you had troops coming back into iraq. so we re seeing something like