leslie s reaction was more muted. he had told me about meeting with ake. and him forgiving him and me having a hard time understanding it. is forgiving part of moving on like that? part of getting past it? i think it is. i mean, i feel like i ve forgiven. you can forgive, but it just doesn t change the circumstances sometimes. but there is a difference between forgiveness and forgetting. the state of oklahoma along with brooks and leslie douglass had some unfinished business with stephen hatch. not the triggerman, no. but a murderer, yes. coming up i was afraid to sleep at night. i was afraid somebody was coming to get me. another legal confrontation. and another staggering surprise. a new part of the story. 8gg@ú
ear, something he needed to do. he found himself on a legislative tour of oklahoma s infamous maximum security prison at mccallister. big mac s population housed the most dangerous prisoners including glen ake. the triggerman in his parents murder. and in an even more secure wing, stephen hatch, ake s accomplice, waiting out his final days on deaths row. at first brooks was afraid he might run into glen ake behind the wall here at the penitentiary. he was nervous about that, wanted to avoid it. then something started gnawing at him and eventually he realized he knew what he had to do. he had to confront the man who d murdered his parents, the man he d contemplated killing outside that courtroom years before. so he went to see the warden. being a senator does have its perks. and the warden sent a note to the prisoner. and much to everyone s amazement, glen ake agreed to a meeting.
shooter. he was in change. why did hatch go along with him? hatch was a and this is ache s words hatch is a follower. ache said, i m the strong one and the made all the decisions. so it was like a big dog/little dog and hatch would follow along. ache said he was the triggerman, not only in the douglass killings but in texas, their. the other incident of the shooting of the fellows in texas, did ache tell you about that and he pulled the and why he pulled the trigger then? he said that he had to do it because steve hatch was just too weak to do it. he was afraid to pull the trigger? yes, sir. and they knew each other having
so that s why they re curious about who he is, what he was doing there, and whether he has any possible connection to mr. loughner, who is in custody right now. all we know is that he s between 40 and 50 years old, white male, last seen in that supermarket wearing a dark blue jacket and jeans, and now authorities want to find him. well, it will be helpful, because there s pictures out there in the public view now, hopefully someone will recognize this man and give a call to the sheriff s department in arizona. susan candiotti, thanks so much. we know there could have been far more victims had the suspected triggerman not run out of bullets. witnesses say he was trying to reload his weapon when he was tackled by bystanders and held down before police arrived. nick joins us live now. what more have you found out? not much. haven t heard much from him, not speaking. very mum as susan reported there. federal authorities have him in
couple of predetermined questions for teresa lewis. we re also not allowed to bring cameras into the facility where she s held. we re speaking to her on the phone on death row in virginia. if you could say anything to the governor at this point, what would you tell him? i would tell the governor, if i speak to him one-on-one, how sorry i really am for allowing this to happen to two people i loved very much. i wish i could take it back. and i m sorry for all the people that i ve hurt. in the process. reporter: lewis pleaded guilty in the 2002 murders of her husband julian and her stepson c.j. in their mobile home in virginia. but lewis herself didn t fire the shots. the two men who did including lead triggerman only got life sentences. the judge called teresa lewis the head of this serpent. but her attorneys say her iq is in the low 70s, near the level of retardation. this esay lewis has dependent