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keith morrison (voiceover): a loving pastor s family instant targets. i heard the first shot go off and said, i love you, mom. i love you, dad. keith morrison (voiceover): they were the only ones who i heard the first shot go survived, and no one knew then how long justice would take off and i said, i love, you i love you dad. they were the only ones who survived. and no one knew then how long justice would take or what it would cost. were you frightened, terrified that they would come back and it up? absolutely. a chilling man hunt, a young survivor, driven to become a state senator. he was very, very passionate. what they ever come out the dark? i always get a little emotional and can t believe it s [inaudible] 30 years later, an answer. the power of forgiveness. this is what my dad and my mom taught me. in his 40s and married again, he started fresh, here in the beach, in malibu. it was time, finally to put it to rest. ali use hollywood to release

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it. is forgiving part of moving on like that? part of getting past it? i think it is. i mean, i feel like i ve forgiven. you can forgive, but it just doesn t change the circumstances sometimes. but there is a difference between forgiveness and forgetting. the state of oklahoma along with brooks and leslie douglass had some unfinished business with stephen hatch. not the triggerman, no. but a murderer, yes. coming up i was afraid to sleep at night. i was afraid somebody was coming to get me. another legal confrontation. and another staggering surprise. a new part of the story.

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stephen hatch and glen ake were on the run. the day after the murders, ake called family in oklahoma and learned that lawmen were on their trail for killing pastor and mrs. douglass and shooerngf investigation. i assume people are pretty anxious to catch them. so what what happened during the next period of days and weeks? well, the they left, and a lot of this is according to their statement. they left through oklahoma city and bought beer in oklahoma city, they asked directions to interstate 40 east, and they ended up that next morning in ft. smith, arkansas. still in the yellow malibu? yes, sir. still in the yellow malibu with the primer spots on it. they ended up there about 2:00

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victims of crimes had very few rights in oklahoma. he was very, very passionate and focused on victims rights. and who could argue with him? there was nobody in the senate or in the house for that matter who had been through that kind of a traumatic experience. the law s passage was a huge victory for brooks and his allies in the legislature. and personally for him, well, it happened during his second term in the senate. revelation. and not a happy one. for all he had accomplished, all he had overcome, the grief, the fury, the drift, the confusion, it wasn t enough. perhaps it was his long dead father still whispering in his ear, something he needed to do. he found himself on a legislative tour of oklahoma s infamous maximum security prison at mccallister.

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outfits leslie wore to compete in miss teen oklahoma. i was the one that spent time with my mom, whether it be singing or her making me a new dress for a pageant. so autumn, 79, 16-year-old brooks was an advanced football-playing senior in high school, making money breeding doberman dogs. leslie, a precociously pretty 12 ye 12-year-old girl, and dad was busy. a chaplain at the state house. a visitor of prisoners at mccallister penitentiary, even preaching a bit on early morning television. simply saying that death is not meaningless, that it s a part of the overall experience of life. and packing them in at putnam baptist. i may not match god s plan with my living, but he knows just exactly how long i m going to live. i don t. praise the lord for that. for the pastor and his wife, charity began at home. their door was always open.

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