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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120322:06:39:00

and i think that the evidence is clear. zimmerman had a 9 millimeter. trayvon had a pack of skittles. okay, let me go over to kendall coffey. in this case, trying to find out what happens, what is going to happen if this goes to court and trying to determine a sense of what happened. was it a guy that went out to do a murder because he was out to get a black kid? it was a guy who tried to stop someone he thought was a burglar or robber and then got involved in a scuffle with him? are we going to be able to get to something about the nature of this tragedy? chris, that s a really important question. to prosecute a case you have to have a realistic theory of what actually happened. and we all know that if you go too far, like the casey anthony case, which is notorious, and you claim it is first degree premeditated and you don t have the facts it back it up, you could blow the whole thing. these have been very tough case

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120322:06:40:00

at any level to get prosecution. so they have to come up with a theory that s realistic, work and can somehow overcome the giant obstacle of the florida stand your ground law, which defeated a lot of righteous prosecutions. here is what i think the theory is. this guy is self appointed vigilante want to be cop who thought, maybe because somebody happened to be black, that he was a crook up to no good. i do suspect there was racial profiling in the mind-set of george zimmerman. so he the wannabe cop, self appointed vigilante runs after the kid. he is running them down. then in some moments very difficult to reconstruct because the only one who survived it is zimmerman. zimmerman, i suspect, had a gun on the kid, was in some fashion trying to get control of the situation, play cop. and trayvon either was trying to get away or moved in some quick way not at all menacing, not threatening. i don t think there was justification. but something happened that caused zimmerman, not trained,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120322:06:42:00

there a valid claim for self-defense. when asked whether or not is his job to prove zimmerman s defense web says, no it s not. so i understand that he is looking at the case from all different angles. but he didn t begin the conversation by saying, i m looking to see if there is enough evidence to prove man slaughter or murder. he began the conversation saying, i m look fog prove self-defense and his word choices are indicative to me of his mind-set. let me go to mr. coffey again. in a standard self-defense case, as you describe what might be a theory to the case that there is a move toward him or some sense of personal endangerment, under the standard law, forget stand your ground, just common law, motion of self-defense, what does it require for a person to shoot somebody? if someone is going to slap you and run away, can you kill him because you didn t want to be slapped and run away. if someone pushes you and run away. or gives you lip.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120322:06:36:00

confrontation. we will talk about this right now. now benjamin crump, lawyer for the martin family, says new evidence provide bade teened by a teen age girl closes flaws in zimmerman s defense. let s listen to that. he had no intention of getting back in his truck, doing what the police instructed him to do. he kept pursuing trayvon martin. how do we know? because this young lady connects the dots. she connects the dots. she completely blows zimmerman s absurd self-defense claim out of the water. so will the zimmerman defense work? let s go to jasmine rand a lawyer, also representing the martin family. and kendall coffey, former u.s. attorney down there. so i m trying to find out different theorys. i guess we are trying to get to the fact and to the law. i want to get to the fact of the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120322:06:38:00

the teenage boy killed was talking through the neighborhood. he began to pursue him, then what do you believe happened. i think he began it pursue him. we have the 17-year-old witness who fame forward and said she was on the phone with trayvon in the final moment with his life that trayvon reported to her he was being followed and she told him to run. zimmerman says that trayvon began to run on his audio portion so the last thing we know is that trayvon ran, the witness said that trayvon lost zimmerman and it s clear that zimmerman pursued and followed trayvon, found him behind the apartment and shot and killed him. what is your sense of motive for the killing? i mean, i think the motive for the killing has a clear racial undertones. what is the motive though? i m not in zimmerman s head. i don t know his true motivations. do you believe there was a confrontation which was physical and in any way endangering to zimmerman in those last moments? i do not believe that.

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