bush s 2016 campaign and now an msnbc political analyst. tip was also the author of great book, why we, did a travelog from the republican road to hell. hi, tim. let me ask you this. what are the dangers of having in extreme conspiracy theorist help conduct investigations like this? hey, alex. i think that there is real potential danger. she is not alone. they put ronny jackson on that same committee who said that he thought the omicron variant was made up by the democrats. unclear how that is a worldwide conspiracy. but i guess we have to get inside ronny s brain to figure that out. you have already seen the negative impact in this country of people not believing the reality of what happened with covid and how vaccines can protect them and how they work. and what the limitations are. and what they should do to protect themselves, their family, their community. having people on a
appreciate it. let s turn to our panel who have been watching with us all night, kurt bardella former spokesman for the republican house oversight committee. he is now a democratic strategist. david jolly, former republican congressman of florida who left the party back in 2018. tim miller, writer at large at the bulwark and author of why we did it, a travelog from the republican road to hell. and also with us, john allen msnbc senior and now the but thank you for being. here diverge ali, i ve been watching your analysis throughout this week. i ve been extremely impressed by the analyses on what this says about the republican party. so given how this has played out, how it has transpired, what is your take away about speaker kevin mccarthy? listen, to the entire world, i underestimated one thing, the willingness of kevin mccarthy and to give everything he could possibly give away and the willingness of the never kevins
hill for us, thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. let s turn to our panel who have been watching with us all night. o kurt bardella, former spokesmn for the republican house oversight committee, now a democratic strategist. david jolly, former republican congressman of florida who left the party back in 2018. tim miller, writer at large at the bulwark and author of why we did it, a travelog from the republican road to hell. also with, us our senior national correspondent politics voter. we will kind of start generally. david, i ve been watching your analysis throughout this week. i have been extremely impressed by a lot of the analysis you have been providing on what this says about the republican party. given how this has played out, given how this has transpired, what is your take away about the speaker? listen, i underestimated one thing, the willingness of kevin mccarthy to actually give away
ryan nobles on for us on capitol hill. thank you very much, we appreciate it. let s turn to our panel who have been watching with us all night, kurt bardella former spokesman for the republican house oversight committee. he is now a democratic strategist. david jolly, former republican congressman of florida who left the party back in 2018. tim miller, writer at large at the bulwark and author of why we did it, a travelog from the republican road to hell. and also with us, john allen msnbc senior and now the but thank you for being. here diverge ali, i ve been watching your analysis throughout this week. i ve been extremely impressed by the analyses on what this says about the republican party. so given how this has played out, how it has transpired, what is your take away about speaker kevin mccarthy? listen, to the entire world, i underestimated one thing, the willingness of kevin mccarthy and to give everything he could
side. tim miller is a former rnc spokesman author of why we did it, a travelog from the republican road to hell. and leah lippman is a professor university michigan law school, co-host of the podcast and leah let me start with you on the michigan question because i do think it s a fascinating snapshot of the politics of this. it first came to my attention through you calling my attention to it. what is going on with the ads there that abortion opponents are running in that state against a state referendum? i mean, the bottom line is they don t want to have to defend their actual position on proposal three and abortion. because their positions are equally unpopular so, the proposal three, there s a abortion ban that bans abortions at all stages of cash pregnancy. so because they don t want to state their position and say yes we are advocating for a world where abortions are