responsibility for how we re going to mitigate our own risk. one of the things that i think is most important that we ve underutilized is knowledge of infection. i m a big advocate for schools that want to do regular testing in a high transmission zone of twice a week to maybe identify the silent epidemic, pull that kid out of school but not pull everybody out of school. it s a sounder policy than let s just acted like everybody might be infected. have everybody wear a mask. the question was asked yesterday you through the cdc has lost relevance because they have sent out so many confusing messages. they re not relying on the science or the data, which is pointing in a different direction than what they re doing. you think the cdc has lost relevance in this conversation? well, clearly the messaging has been very confusing. clearly they ve had a number of situations including this one that they re behind. they re behind. if you want to lead public
rochelle walensky said because there s high areas of transmission of omicron, we can t change our mask guidance. do you agree or disagree? no, martha, i don t agree with that. it s not so much where it is in the larger community but what is it in the setting that you re in. with the debate about schools, schools have always been a very low transmission zone for covid. i think this is what many people are realizing, that the risk of transmission acquisition within the school setting is extremely low, even if one is in a community where there s significant transmission. the risk for students has always been not the schools. it s been the community in which they live, the dinner table in which they have dinner at. martha: but masks off on on for everybody in the general public, restaurants, schools across the board in your opinion? i think we re at a stage, and we have been for several weeks
lead by example is maskless in a high transmission zone and now tlaib. these are the same people, steve honks say that your 3 or my 5 or 7-year-old must wear a mask in school. and if you are a parent who doesn t believe that based on the science and the data that says that schools are the lowest transmission zones that you can be in, you are the problem. not them. the bottom line is that all these so-called leaders are flaunting this behavior at this point because they know that most of the media, steve, will not piously do so super spreader events. only apply for the media for piker rallies or cuban american protests or large church gatherings not weddings attended by democrats where no one is wearing a mask inside. steve: joe, both you and i live in new jersey the governor says any time we are in indoors now in a public setting we have got to wear a mask when we go down to the shop right. one other story for you. the washington post is taking the biden administration to task becaus