its own people, unquote. that outreach will continue this afternoon when secretary of state clinton conducts interviews with three arab language tv networks, alhora, al aribiya and al jazeera. jon: and in egypt, the military is now firmly in control but the people there say they want more democracy. how will that transition look and what if any role might the u.s. play? joining us now, eliot abrams, president george w. bush s deputy national security adviser for the middle east. now comes the hard part, the people of egypt toppled the government that they wanted to topple, but what comes next? well, you re absolutely right, that s the big question. i ve heard people say they think the military will get a taste for governing directly and try to stay on. i don t think that s right. i think, you know, they have no answer for unemployment and poverty, and i think after a few months of this, they ll be happy to hand it back to the especiallies. jon it s kind of interesting, though.