bill: it was personal in cheney s book. you are academic, you wanted to have meetings and all of that you said that your joint appearances with appearances with the secretary of defense were disastrous. so what was the beef there? well, don is kind of a was cybil, grumpy guy. i think that sometimes don had trouble with the fact that we were now in a position of colleague, he had been my mentor, someone who championed my career. again, we had substantive disagreements. not personal disagreements. don t you think both guys were a little torqued off that you were challenging them. that you were intruding on their turf? oh, i think both of them understood that i was a national security advisor with a close relationship with the president. sometimes don thought i was putting the president s words in or my words in the president s mouth that absolutely wasn t true. bill: was this just a power thing like who can get the
bill: it was personal in cheney s book. you are academic, you wanted to have meetings and all of that you said that your joint appearances with appearances with the secretary of defense were disastrous. so what was the beef there? well, don is kind of a was cybil, grumpy guy. i think that sometimes don had trouble with the fact that we were now in a position of colleague, he had been my mentor, someone who championed my career. again, we had substantive disagreements. not personal disagreements. don t you think both guys were a little torqued off that you were challenging them. that you were intruding on their turf? oh, i think both of them understood that i was a national security advisor with a close relationship with the president. sometimes don thought i was putting the president s words in or my words in the president s mouth that absolutely wasn t true. bill: was this just a power thing like who can get the
mentor. someone who championed my career. but, again, we had substantive disagreements. not personal disagreements. bill: don t you think that both guys were a little torqued off that you were challenging them? that you were intrigued on their turf. oh, i think both of them understood that i was a national security advisor with a close relationship to the president. i think sometimes don thought i was putting the president s words or my words in the president s mouth. that absolutely wasn t true. bill: was this just a powerful thing like who can get the president s ear and they thought you were a threat? no. that s washington all of the time. bill: i think that s what it is. that is washington all of the time. fortunately we were able to mostly make it work. i had my job to do. when i was secretary of state. broker. coordinate them. make my own views known. i think from the vice president s point of view he didn t like that i won most of those arguments but i did. i can t
mentor. someone who championed my career. but, again, we had substantive disagreements. not personal disagreements. bill: don t you think that both guys were a little torqued off that you were challenging them? that you were intrigued on their turf. oh, i think both of them understood that i was a national security advisor with a close relationship to the president. i think sometimes don thought i was putting the president s words or my words in the president s mouth. that absolutely wasn t true. bill: was this just a powerful thing like who can get the president s ear and they thought you were a threat? no. that s washington all of the time. bill: i think that s what it is. that is washington all of the time. fortunately we were able to mostly make it work. i had my job to do. when i was secretary of state. broker. coordinate them. make my own views known. i think from the vice president s point of view he didn t like that i won most of those arguments but i did. i can t
mentor. someone who championed my career. but, again, we had substantive disagreements. not personal disagreements. bill: don t you think that both guys were a little torqued off that you were challenging them? that you were intrigued on their turf. oh, i think both of them understood that i was a national security advisor with a close relationship to the president. i think sometimes don thought i was putting the president s words or my words in the president s mouth. that absolutely wasn t true. bill: was this just a powerful thing like who can get the president s ear and they thought you were a threat? no. that s washington all of the time. bill: i think that s what it is. that is washington all of the time. fortunately we were able to mostly make it work. i had my job to do. when i was secretary of state. broker. coordinate them. make my own views known. i think from the vice president s point of view he didn t like that i won most of those arguments but i did. i can t