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was published, asean ounce that they are closing up shop. joining me now, is bin smith, the new york times columnist who broke this story wide open. then, it s great to have you, i mean this is an absolutely fascinating story with so many twists and turns i couldn t even keep up with all the developments over the weeks. and as you didn t deny your reporting, in fact they blame the conference call incident on some mirror row, the co-founder and chief operating officer of aussie media. supposedly going through a mental health crisis, that s not to make jokes or make light of that in any capacity. but what do you make of that explanation? i think it was an attempt to prevent critics from writing about it. the thing was, and i don t know the details of his mental health, what we were really able to report on was that it was part of a pattern of deceiving investors, advertisers, the media, all sorts of people about what was going on with that company.

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