let me ask you the question that i ve asked you syria and libya. how is it america s interest directly to effect regime chains to overthrow the government of nicolas maduro? david: i don t agree many people in washington are calling for the u.s. to intervene right now. but the u.s. does tucker: come back to washington. david: i m in new york and i left washington yesterday. but i do think this administration would like to see regime change and improve sanctions and other sort of soft power techniques. it is pushing for regime change, and i think that is appropriate. the problem is venezuela is completely failed states with authoritarian dictator plunged in the country to complete desperation and creating a very negative them in a tearing situation, refugees who are planning out over latin america, south america and come to the u.s. more.
framework, some kind of deal, that ds collates for the near future of their relationship with north korea, he will be the first president to have done that in 65 years. will that, do you think counter this win for him? i m not whining how they are being unfair to trumpet a fair question. i don t like the guy, but kind of impressive. victor: i think it is cumulative, tucker, and admired him getting out and when you look back at it, moving the embassy to jerusalem. defeating isis and almost annihilating isis, the iran sponsors realized it was flawed. people realize nato needed to pay more and $100 million and so i think cumulative people are saying, you know what if you look at the entire trump record under secretary of state pompeo, it is getting better and it s already good. so we will get credit for it. in contrast to all the other
raised $16,000. the idea his idea for the president to run in 2012 is a lie. he lied to the committee s face and of course he had that whole thing with foreign contract and they will refer that for an investigation. i think an investigation with his whole claim, prideful claim it was his idea of the president run in 2012 is preposterous. tucker: i ve heard a lot today from republicans about michael cohen is lying. i m willing to believe anything come of course, but do you think he was lying in the statements that he made about the president that none of these bugs feed israel and he would know, is he lying about that? michael: i don t know. i think that congress has done a heck of a job and the next couple of times, the committee, to sort through what is light and what is truth. i think peppering your lies with the little dollop of truth is
people. i really don t think that. he actually went to a fancy boarding school in switzerland before when he was young. he has seen parts of the world and he knows his system doesn t deliver for his people. he doesn t actually care about that. he is a dictator. and you are similar lacing expectations that people saying donald trump has lost. he has given up on total denuclearization and he will just accept some peace deal for the appearance of it. consider that some big victory. i don t think that is realistic either. i think donald trump wants to win not as p.r. photo up but in a railway. some of the expectations are wrong but really they are gonna do is try to work for incremental steps at disarmament including things like boring things, inspections, discussions about plutonium 2:30 nine in uranium 2:30 five and things like that. tucker: that is the benchmark that you would set for victory if tomorrow or whatever this finishes, we are told they
don t need to invest in nuclear weapons anymore and we can start the practice practice to denuclearize. it gives him that opportunity. tucker: it has always had china is the pivotal player and all of this. what is their position and what do they want? harry: i think china is concerned that kim jong un might actually move closer to soul in the united states. remember north korea as a bumper against seoul, u.s. forces that are actually in korea. so the chinese are very worried that someday they will be reunification. let me tell you he reunified south korea would have trillions of dollars and seoul would have a cheap entrepreneurial labor force to actually rebuild. so would be empowered, a powerhouse in china does not want that. so a little worried about china s motives here. tucker: so you believe the government of south korea would like to unify the country? harry: eventually, unification ministry and scholars on staff researching to try to figure this out.