they say on cnn. did what you hear today change your view? absolutely not and it reinforced my view that much of what has been touted as smoking gun evidence russian collusion since the beginning of this whole ordeal has actually not been worn out. i think a line of questioning that was used by representative, an independent thinker, a democrat. you talk about him on the show. tucker: i like him. i think he had an interesting approach here and speculated that perhaps the actual smoking gun in this whole episode not anything to do with russia but just garden-variety, those are his words, stemming from hush money payment that michael cohen gave stormy daniels 2016 election and trump and his associates repaid that payment to cohen constituted financial fraud. i don t know if that is true but the rational motive. tucker: i agree.
yes. does it diminish? no, if they get the liberals out of the summit from anything is substantial. history has a long view. michael cohen will not be a big part of history if that happens. tucker: either way, i doubt it will be a chapter. bret baier light from hanoi, thank you very much for that. bret: thank you, tucker. tucker: so what can we realistically expect out of the summit we are watching in hanoi? the director of studies for the center of national interest joins us, here it is good to see you my thanks for coming on. give us the interview at the point, the object of this meeting is. harry: tucker i think we have to think about how this has changed in terms of what the white house is saying in 2017 and today. everything is about denuclearization. i think that is still a big point but what the president has been doing is going on twitter s talk about peace. we have to think about this, how do we send kim jong un to give up his weapons? i think only one way to do that,
stuff has failed. all of these drama, melodrama is whether mccabe the 25th amendment, they have gone nowhere. and they look smaller and smaller and trump is looking bigger and bigger. tucker: it is awfully come repetitive i have to say. thank you very much, great to see you as it always is. victor: thank you. tucker: ed henry is still in hanoi in vietnam by choice and joins us with a timeline and breakdown of what we expect to see over the next 24 hours, ed. ed: tucker both leaders at the metropolitan hotel in hanoi and the bottom line and about 5 minutes, we expect them to sit down behind closed doors and let reporters come in and take pictures with another handshake as we saw in day one. about 45 minutes after that, they will add more people like secretary of state mike pompeo. i think the key is about 11:55 p.m. tonight eastern time so about noon here locally in vietnam, we are expecting a
the best strategy of a pathological liar, right? so i think a tough time to figure out what michael cohen is saying whether it is a lie or truthful. and the idea, he is the star witness is really hilarious. and by the way, john love it looks like him and sounds like him. they have to do it on saturday night. tucker: why, and you know i actually know him pretty well and he always struck me as a little slow but i don t hate him or anything. only a dumb person would lead to campaign violation for paying off. this is not campaign finance why would he plead to that? be when i think he s being told to do what he s doing and the rule 35 he talked about during s testimony today. rule 35 is a motion prosecutors put into reduce somebody s sentence for substantial assistance. and i talked to a couple of former u.s. attorneys, you know, who said that michael cohen is doing is telling a narrative,
pro-american country so dissidents end up having their lives threatened because they talk positively about america, because they cooperated with america, and they have to leave, running for their lives, they need somewhere to go. that is how we encourage them tucker: may i ask you a question, are we pretending democracy and i despise the venezuelan government. they are evil. david: we agree on that. tucker: why are we pretending every go around the country should be democracy? do we want it in jordan, saudi arabia? that is 2003 talking point that has turned out to be ridiculous. we don t want democracy in the world, that shouldn t be the goal, what are you talking about? david: it s been a bipartisan policy. tucker: i know, that is the problem. david: i know. david: that goes all the way back to our founding fathers, tucker. they support us but they were not neocons. tucker: people should be able to decide who their leaders are.