will not run for re-election in 2020. and intriguing news about a fresh subpoena from prosecutors in new york. in connection with the crime that sent michael cohen to prison. we begin tonight with the 2020 candidates who were back out on the trail today after a feisty combative debate last night in detroit. where they wacked each other over the heads over their differences of policy and records. joe biden and kamala harris were teed up. congressman tulsi gabbard fixated on harris. senator cory booker and biden
michael cohen. he also said that he was told to lie about the hush money payments. absolutely. and that was one of the most dramatic moments. and it was katie hill whom you just interviewed who drew that out of him. now that particular part was untoward and was something that he should not have done, but perhaps not illegal to say don t it ll the truth to the public. it is, as gloria just laid out, the series of allegations of donald trump being involved in the acts that are sending michael cohen to prison. talking about, first and foremost, the hush money payments, but then in addition to that, he laid out other scenarios that could be potential crimes about, you know, potential fraud with his charity. about potential fraud financial fraud by giving banks information about his financial
michael cohen, the campaigns finance felonies he s going to prison for next month. those are the campaign finance felonies he s implicated the president as having directed him to commit those felonies. now cummings says other lawyers for the president gave false statements about those payments to the government office of ethics when they were working on the president s financial disclosure about some of these matters. is this something that is sort of slap on the wrist territory? is this potentially illegal if they made false statements about those payments? yes, making a false statement to anyone in government is a crime. it s the same statute 18 usc section 1001, false statements. it s the same crime that we ve seen robert mueller charge many times for lying to the fbi or lying to congress. it is similarly a crime to lie to a government agency about some matter that they are looking at within their jurisdiction. so if the office of government ethics is looking into this and someone
offense. and am i right that this is one of those cases where there s a popular perception that it only matters if you lied if you were under oath but lawyers will tell you it doesn t matter if you re under oath if you were lying to federal officials in that kind of a context, it s a crime regardless of whether or not you ever put your hand on a bible? absolutely right. it s a different crime. if you lie under oath, it s a crime of perjury. if you re not under oath, it s a different crime, crime of false statements. they re both punishable for up to five years in prison. barbara mcquade, it s great to have you here being clarion, as always. barb, thank you so much. thank you, rachel. it was a great pleasure. much more to get to. busy, busy, busy friday night. stay with us. this is not a bed.
prosecutors about important things, about matters that were material to their investigation, including the extent of his contacts with someone who prosecutors say is linked to russian intelligence. so that ruling happened a couple of days ago this week. after that ruling this week, prosecutors in the special counsel s office moved quickly to start the process of manafort finally getting sentenced for his crimes. now, manafort is facing sentencing both in the eastern district of virginia, which is where he had his trial. that s where he was convicted of eight felonies. he s also facing sentencing in washington, d.c. that s the court where he pled guilty to two felonies and started what was supposed to be his deal with prosecutors, which he blew up by lying to them. well, tonight we ve just received the recommendation from mueller s office as to how much time they think manafort should spend in prison based just on the eight felony counts for