what mr. morrison said already today about having been directed no the to deal with giuliani. we know about the transcript having ellipses put into that. we know that vindman testified about that and about it being put into a highly secure system. so there s a lot of actual facts that have come out recently, which do show that regardless of what various people might have thought in particular was alarming ak the phone call and about the entire back and forth throughout the spring and the summer and into the fall of this year, that it was handled in a way that causes a lot of concerns for a lot of people, and that certainly i think supports that very many people had acknowledged something was wrong rwith this. you bring up john bolton. invited to testimony next week but says he will not show up without a subpoena. was he trying to send a message to the president saying that? and if so, what might he be trying to relay?
spoke with seemed critical of the role that ambassador to the european union gordon sondland played in all this. son land come under crist simple and scrutiny about his role and push along with the president to carry out what the president wanted, which was those investigations. morrison is the second individual these investigators interviewed on that phone call in july between trump and zelensky. and, according to what we re told, it s that morrison testified he did not see anything illegal. not concerned there was anything illegal on the call s he wasn t concerned by trump even asking zelensky for a favor. now, that s different than what alexander vindman, the other white house official who testified this week on the call said earlier this week when he said that he was concerned about a national security concern and even took those concerns to a national security council attorney. while mr. morrison said today he did not raise concerns with the
right now tim morrison one of bolton s allies and on trump s national security council is currently behind doors on capitol hill. the second person who listened in on the phone call between president trump and president stlons s zelensky to sit in the congressional hot seat. new details about morrison s testimony and manu raju what have you learned? reporter: we ve learned behind closed doors tim morrison testified he was told to steer clear of rudy giuliani. rudy giuliani, of course, was pursuing a parallel ukraine policy, something to carry out the president s directives and something to push for investigations to help the president politically, including into former vice president joe biden and his son and according to what morrison told house investigators, we are told he said that he was urged by a separate white house official at the time, fiona hill to stay away from rudy giuliani. he said that he did just that. he also according to a source i
falls to congress. surely, mary, i m going to ask this to you. that the president will point to the fact that tim morrison sat there and said, nope. i listened in on the call. i wasn t concerned about anything illegal. but isn t the problem bigger than this july 25th phone call? like, this was a wide, kwo coordinated effort? i think the president will use this again to repeat his refrain this was a perfect call and pint to probably parts of mr. morrison s testimony, but i think as harry pointed out sort of the actions taken within the white house and outside of the white house by people within the administration don t really support that there wasn t alarm about this. there s been reporting of course, of john bolton s own reaction, we won t know unless and until we hear from him, or about any testimony he may present. we won t know directly until then, directly how he felt about it, but certainly we know what fiona hill has said about it