question about your sincerity about debriefing. lockup cameras were at california state prison corcoran when thomas spiller, a long-time gang member went before the inmate review board to request debriefing. i can certainly see your point of view. however, a good number of inmates in the program have in fact been in my position in the past and have also called hits on other inmates and then and actually done hits themselves. so i m assuming that you have had the same concerns about them, or am i being singled out for some reason? let s not go there. you are going to be given the opportunity to debrief. now, she s only giving you the honest truth. and the truth is there is concern. it also depends on how sincere you are when you do your history statement. all the stuff that you just told us about ordering hits, that kind of thing, you re going to have to do that. you are going to have to put it to writing. just for my own understanding, what is the main source of your change
about debriefing. lockup cameras were at california state prison corcoran when thomas spiller, a long-time gang member went before the inmate review board to request debriefing. i can certainly see your point of view. however, a good number of inmates in the program have in fact been in my position in the past and have also called hits on other inmates and then and actually done hits themselves. so i m assuming that you have had the same concerns about them, or am i being singled out for some reason? let s not go there. you re going to be given an opportunity to debrief. she s only giving you the honest truth, and the truth is, there is concern. it also depends on how sincere you are when you do your history statement. all the stuff that you just told us about ordering hits, that kind of thing, you re going to have to do that. you are going to have to put it to writing.
an individual can be in good favor with the gang for years, can do their dirty work, smuggle drugs, stab people, beat people, do whatever. but if he says the wrong thing to the wrong person someday, or looks funny at somebody, somebody thinks they were disrespected by him, he s through. they ll stab him, they ll kill him. they ll toss him away like he s nothing. august 30th. i just got tired of prison politics. they re tired of being asked to go out there and assault other inmates. they just want to kick back, do their time and get out of prison. when we first visited corcoran, thomas spiller was a high-ranking gang member who requested a debriefing. he was just four years into a 35-year-to-life sentence for second-degree robbery. there s a process we have to go through. first of all, you have to turn over any weapons and then refrain from associating with anyone, any of your former gang member friends, list everything
i m simply just a middleman. passing on orders. and it doesn t make sense. i was ordered to kill a dear friend of mine, and i really didn t appreciate that. the committee decided spiller would be allowed to debrief. he was then moved into protective custody in the special-needs unit. you have a good day. thank you. since then, he s been transferred to another prison in california for his safety. once they elect to go ahead and debrief and cross that line, you cannot put that inmate back in the general population in the yard because, ultimately, he will get assaulted and possibly even killed. but the prison can only protect the inmate from his gang s fury. they can t protect the inmate s friends and family. that individual decided to debrief. he asked to get his family out of the old neighborhood because they re going to retaliate against his family if they can t get to him. the information provided by former gang members like inmate spiller is used to identify and track
that i ve done, all my activities, the hits i ve ordered, the hits i ve done, who sponsored me into the gang and so on. and so forth. state your name and number for the committee. you re here for your cdc annual. we have some questions about your request to debrief. the deputy warden and social worker, and captain nate dill have to decide whether spiller s desire to denounce his gang was genuine. i do have some questions about your sincerity about debriefing. i have some questions of my own, if i may. the officials are concerned that some of the debriefed inmates whom spiller would join in special-needs housing were former hits of his. spiller, you will not be denied the debrief process. it may take a while because we re going to have to look at it very, very hard. for my own understanding, what is the main source of your change of heart? basically, i m tired of doing other people s dirty work.