lockup cameras were at california state prison corcoran when thomas spiller, a long-time gang member, went before the inmate review board to request debriefing. i can certainly see your point of view. however, a good many of inmates in the program have, in fact, been in my position in the past and have also called hits on other inmates and then and actually done hits themselves. so i m assuming that you have had the same concerns about them, or am i being singled out for some reason? let s not go there. you are going to be given the opportunity to debrief, you know? now, she s only giving you the honest truth. and the truth is there is concern. it also depends on how sincere you are when you do your history statement. all the stuff that you just told us about ordering hits, that kind of thing, you re going to have to do that. you re going to have to put that to writing. just for my own
hard. for my own understanding, what is the main source of your change of heart? basically i m tired of doing other people s dirty work. i m simply just a middleman passing on orders. and it doesn t make sense. i was ordered to kill a dear friend of mine and i really didn t appreciate that. the committee decided spiller would be allowed to debrief. he was then moved into protective custody in the special needs unit. you have a good day. thank you. since then he s been transferred to another prison in california for his safety. once they elect to go ahead and debrief and cross that line, you cannot put that inmate back on a general population yard because ultimately he will get assaulted and possibly even killed. but the prison can only protect the inmate from his gang s fury. they can t protect the inmate s friends and family.
population. an individual can be in good favor with the gang for years, can do their dirty work, smuggle drugs, stab people, beat people, do whatever, but if he says the wrong thing to the wrong person someday, or looks funny at somebody, somebody thinks he is disrespected by him, he s through. they ll stab him, they ll kill him, they ll toss him away like he s nothing. a lot of them get tired of prison politics. they re tired of being asked to go out there and asalt other inmates. they just want to kick back, do their time and get out of prison. when we first visited corcoran, thomas spiller was a high ranking gang member who requested a debriefing. he was just four years into a
favor with the gang for years, can do their dirty work, smuggle drugs, stab people, beat people, do whatever, but if he says the wrong thing to the wrong person someday, or looks funny at somebody, somebody thinks he is disrespected by him, he is through. they will stab him, they will kill him, they will toss him away like he is nothing. get tired of prison politics. they are tired of being asked to go out there and assault other inmates. they just want to kick back, do their time and get out of prison. when we first visited corcoran, thomas spiller was a high-ranking gang member who requested a debriefing, he was just four years in a 35-to-year life sentence for second degree robbery. there is a process we have to go through. first of all, tough turn over any weapons and association of any former gang member friends, list anything i have done, hits
35-year-to-life sentence for second-degree robbery. there s a process that we have to go through. first of all, you have to turn over any weapons and refrain from associating with any of your former gang member friends. list everything that i ve done and all my activities. hits i ve ordered, hits i ve done, who sponsored me into the gang, so on and so forth. state your neighbor and number for the committee. you are here for your cdc annual. we have some question about your request to debrief. deputy warden marv mesky, social worker janelle johnson and captain nate dill have to decide whether spiller s desire to renounce his gang was genuine. i do have some questions about your sincerity for debriefing. i have questions of my own if i may. the officials are concerned some of the debriefed inmates whom spiller would join in special needs housing were former hits of his. you will not be denied a debrief process. it may take a while because we have to look at it very, very