mid-january. i don t read all that much into the lack of communication between mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer. those are both professional politicians who when the time is right will come to some sort of an agreement. nancy pelosi is trying to add a little bit of leverage on behalf of schumer so that democrats can try to obtain the right to call some witnesses whose testimony would be further embarrassing to president trump. and you know, president trump initially said, well, you know, i want an opportunity to present my case, i don t want a quick verdict. but now when it comes to the actual witnesses the democrats want to put on, bolton, mulvaney, pompeo, people who could say things that are quite damaging if they give truthful testimony, that s going to that s something he s not interested in and he s siding with mitch mcconnell. but i do think murkowski s break with the president is a
do. she appears to maybe want to take at least in the short-term after the clarence thomas situation, the road of anita hill and just kind of lay low. dana bash, thank you very much. check in with chris and see what he s working on for cuomo primetime. it s really important to get all sides of perspective on what happened today and what we assume will happen tomorrow. the women in those big elevator moments, you re having them on. we re going to have one from the flake one and one of the hatch one because they were so different. they meant such different things, they confirm such different things. we ll have john dean on from nixon fame, obviously, he testified on kavanaugh, what he feels about the concerns. we re going to debate the way forward, and we re going to make the case, anderson, we ve seen one thing for sure. this is the bottom. murkowski and collins agree on that. the question is what makes the change for the better?
protesting, coming and expressing your dissatisfaction with the way the process is being handled is a circus-like atmosphere, and we don t want that. i don t think that s a good message to say to people. chasing people in the hallway is a circus. i m sorry, why shouldn t they be confronted in the hallway? i ll express my opinion and then you can express yours. chasing people and confronting them is circus-like. asking a senator what boof means in a supreme court hearing is absurd. and what collins pointed out is not only does she not remember how she got home, no one has come forward they drove her home. and the two witnesses she named, one of whom is a good friend of hers, and both of those witnesses said they have no memory of this event. in fact, a friend of hers says she does not even know brett qu kavanaugh.
than perhaps antagonizing elements of the base. where are they going to go at this point? the republican morse? they can stay home. but i suspect that would be self-defeating. at least with manchin they get somebody who supports democratic values more often than republican. were you vised by the way things fell into place today? not particularly. i thought that i think k collins is one of the best senators and i have the highest respect for him. i was not surprised by collins or manchin. i was surprised by murkowski reasoning for not voting for kavanaugh. i thought she might have relied upon he shed concerns about kavanaugh s support for native americans and federal land issues. she made it more about his temperament. that surprised me a little bit.
and she very wpersuasively explained there s no independent corroboration of that and the evidence cuts the wrong way. and she said even outside a legal setting, a very important norm in this country, of fairness of frunpresumption of innocence, and i think murkowski really makes sense to say he s a good man bought i m going to vote against him, but she s rewarding the rancor. i was proud of collins this afternoon and very glad that brett kavanaugh will in all likelihood be on the supreme court. kirsten, is this the new normal? do you think this is going to be the way it is moving forward? it s interesting. i don t even know mutt that means. unless another person comes up to the supreme court where there s a woman or i think there are two very credible allegations against him who come