anymore. and here we are now. thank you so much, joyq■. good evening, from new york, i am chris hayes, andñr■it is a big night with major historic breaking news. and i mqgoing to be with you for the next hour entirely. and after that, the one and only rachel maddow will be here. kmt. x■so, we expect that somelp time early next week that the former president of these united states willoki] surrender to the manhattan district attorney s office where he will be arrested and face arraignment on felony criminal charges. and that m■jul■ afternoon a grand jury in manhattan voted to indict donald trump i of their son baron. this is the culmination of an investigation that s been five years and two districtf■ attorneys. in recent weeks, as the case neared a close, or appeared to, we saw key witnesses testify before the grand juryñr■ down i■ m■attan, including michael cohen, trump st■r and fixer, who actk!ñ■made the payments toçó■daniels in october of 201
through this a very intense prism of, a mannequin political view tha is two things think the other let me follow up on that is someone who has served as u.s. attorney prosecutor and run an office where you made thes calls. just to level it here, mos prosecutions in america, where those district attorneys i counties or federal, it mostly pleats. and particularly u.s. attorney offices typically brin incredibly strong cases and th vast majority of defendant plea that s the way the entire u.s. criminal justice follow works. when you know you re going t bring a case that is not going to plea, and when you know you re going to bring a case against someone who is going t have deep pockets and lots o lawyers and lots of support, a alvin bragg knows here, it s got to change the psychology o all of this. and then when it s a president the united states in you making history
you ve got to imagine this was made under quite considere fashion. that s the big points yes it changes ecology but changes it from the outset it changed it for brag when he made the decision to go ahead. it s probably one of the reasons that garland has bee criticized for his methodica circumspection in goin forward. that may already have played through, but still you think that when it is time for charges and the people of th united states to step forwar in court, then that will be th main show. and it won t be here it will be a combined craz show of politics and law, an they re going to need extrem discipline to just where they re blinkers, play out there their case in court an not take the bait that s going to be given every single day b trump and his supporters all, right harry litman
anger that he s breeding, that he s growing, it s just really it s really hurtful. and it s hurtful, hopefully, only in an emotional way and not in a physical way. alvin bragg is doing his job if it turns out that this is a political witch hunt, th public will know you better believe a jury will know to. so, they deserve and law enforcement deserves the benefit of the doubt but donald trump deserve beyond a reasonable doubt. otherwise, he s innocent you were nodding your hea as i was describing what i about and what is only going t get more intense i, think, a time goes. on 100% so, i think something like thi happens and we go to the worst places on the internet and generally what people ar saying is that this is political theater and we hav seen impeachments and we hav seen he s beat back all of thi and one of the places that i look at right now is teflo don. they are not concerned about him and they think he will because he is their savior the one thing that i concerning is tha
senator, was indicted an prosecuted, he was acquitted those are people who have wa more resources than your average defended getting arraigned and booked i brooklyn or manhattan, right but it s also the case tha this has happened before the idea that rachel maddow made this, point rachel maddow it s happened in our country - not to former president, but a very powerful former political leaders. it happened to leaders in othe countries. the point of the rule of law - where it catches out is, the process is what matters. right, you are exactly. right in the process is th process and people need to understand that. it is a critical point for viewers to understand. this is going to be a very lon and extracted process. and let s be clear, as you v already said, the indictment i has not been unsealed yet. we literally do not know wha he has been charged with - right? and it could be simply as straightforward as the falsified bookkeeping. it could be much mor convoluted and complica