Welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. Let me start by trying to establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . Well, not the same rights, because, of course, they dont need the right to do some of the things we wish to do, like drive a car or vote, although they might do better than weve done sometimes. But they do need the right to be respected. I think theyre living beings just like us, and so they should be understood as much as we possibly can understand them. We shouldnt inflict needless pain on them, and we should curb some of our habits that cause them a lot of suffering. Peta, your organisation, people for the ethical treatment of animals, opposes what it calls speciesism and a, quote, human supremacist worldview. Can you sort of explain what that actually means . Well, i think we have to get over ourselves as a species, as a Human Species. Weve sort of s
Welcome to hardtalk. Im stephen sackur. We humans have a complicated relationship with animals. Some we pet, some we skin, some we eat. We destroy their wild habitats while we agonise about the loss of species diversity. It is not an equal relationship, its exploitative, but will it ever change . And if so, how . My guest is determined that it should. Ingrid newkirk is president and Co Founder of the Campaign Group people for the ethical treatment of animals. Is she the Human Ally Animals need . Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. To have you in the studio. Let me start by trying let me start by trying to establish a core principle. To establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . The same rights as huma
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Finances were in a dire state. Hang on. There was this 22 Billion black hole. We spend 1200 Billion billion black hole. We spend i200 billion pounds every year in this 22 Billion so called black hole, a mere accounting device. In this whole debate, what the Labour Government are trying to do was to make the political point that the Conservative Party ran the country into the ground and therefore weve got to punish therefore weve got to punish the pensioners. It is absolute and complete rubbish. And what those we represent cant understand, these people who worked hard all their lives, have done their bit for the country, their total package is perhaps 13 or 14,000 a year. What they cant understand is that this so called saving of public money is actually going to go to Train Drivers who own 70,000 a year. Theyjust dont understand it. So for god sake, lets have a serious debate. Lets try to unite on this issue and lets not keep taking away benefits from people just above the Pension Cred
For each of our current employees across the police service. I understand that that will be of considerable concern to many of my colleagues, and their families at the moment. We operate in an environment at the moment where this is a Severe Threat to our colleagues in Northern Ireland related to terrorism and this is the last thing that anybody in the organisation wants to be hearing this evening. So i owe it to my colleagues to investigate thoroughly and weve initiated that, well keep the police board informed and all the Staff Associations informed of that investigation. And weve been engaging with them throughout the afternoon. The information was taken down very quickly, but nevertheless i do appreciate the concern that it will cause. Well seek to find the extent to which that has been viewed, but what i would say is that of the error was our own, once that information was out there if anybody did have access to it i would ask them to delete it straightaway. We will have more reac