that american people have right to know, correct? particularly bill o reilly interviewed mark everson a former irs commissioner. martha: right. i think he said, and i know you have run it this morning whether he went once or not at all. in other words it wasn t standard procedure that the irs commissioner trotted down to the white house. it raises questions, an extraordinary number 150 times. now of course doug shulman, the former irs commissioner in what was really an arrogant answer said, well i went to the easter egg roll. martha: that went over well. there weren t 150 easter egg rolls. martha: there weren t 150 easter egg roles. we may see many him coming back. i think he will come back. martha: to go into detail about the nature of those visits. a lot to talk about chris and we look forward to it as always. see you on sunday. thank you, martha. martha: as he said he has bob goodlatte coming up chairman of house judiciary committee who has a lot of questions for eric hold