bank efforts have been resisted and that he assumes to feel his time is limited and he wants to do as much reform as he can while he is there, because the hierarchy could reassert control. the stories that you got around the time of his election were that the cardinals were particularly interested in his reforming the curia, the vatican bank, alongside and i think those measures have been important measures, successful. the card untinal from australia been a forceful reformer and has achieved good results. it s like changing an american bureaucracy. we have a new president, a democrat follows a republican and he can change who the secretaries are but the level of bureaucracy below that is going to long survive you. it s a very difficult thing to change all together. it will be fascinating to watch him. thank you for taking the time. huge week for you.
so the thinking is probably another one from the reformer side will come up and try to take those votes and they ll vote again this afternoon. all of that said, we really don t know. but the people who watch all of this think that s where the best money is on all of this and they ll have a couple more votes this afternoon, late morning your time. if they don t get a pope, there will be more black smoke. they ll pray about it and do it again tomorrow. steve: shepherd, you re talking about the politics there at the vatican. scola is the cardinal from milan; right? correct. cardinal from milan. very close to benedict xvi. personally more of an extrovert with greater optimism about the church s prospects in the here and now. it was widely believed that benedict xvi tried to hard to get reforms in place, the vatican bank controversy that had come along, the scandal after that. it is widely believed here he tried really hard, couldn t get things done he
italian prosecutors and international financial institutions for not revealing the names of its account holders and generally not being sufficiently transparent. when you think of benedict s papacy, john paul s papacy, the vatican bank has cropped up time and time again embarrassing the holly sea. the next pope coming in has to think to himself, you know, it s time to finally reign this in. clean it up. the vatican, shep, has taken some steps recently to answer some regulators questions. one of pope benedict the xvith s last move in office was to fire the head of the bank and put in someone new. a german banker. still, this will be a big file in the inbox of the next pope, shep? shepard: yeah, it would have to be. watching how all of this goes down tomorrow and for the next whatever days, some the rituals involved here are centuries old,
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