political corruption. this business mike just talked about, donald trump having said initially it will cross a red line looking into his personal business, that s out the window now. that s just a silly request that no one should be paying attention to. michael cohen, if nobody else, brought it to the fore that donald trump s business interests, the trump organization, the trump foundation, the trump campaign, the inauguration, they re all mixed up and in a lot of cases it s the same people helping them. that s correct. you have people being tour guides to take you through the analysis. it s not only michael cohen, there are other people being tour guides here. i think what you re going to see is they re going to look at what all the various documents are, what gets produced, who produces them, how long, who fights it, what gets turned over. they ll look particularly at the financial transactions. and they re going to see whether, in fact, the lines were blurred. one of the areas the
investigation was to end tomorrow, which, you know, there s been a lot of scuttlebutt, a lot of rumors as to whether or not that s going to happen any time soon, but if it was to end tomorrow, fundamentally, it would not end. the southern district of new york s investigations, several of which are going on, and it wouldn t end the state prosecuting agencies, those people like the state of new york a.g. that s looking into donald trump into things involving the trump organization, the trump foundation, the inaugural committee and the emoluments clause litigation. there s so much that s going on. and so, donald trump may escape the mueller net when it comes to possible russian conspiracy, but it may not be able to escape an imminent indictment whether now or when he s out of the white house. yeah. what about all those names that were mentioned, ashleigh, during the hearing with michael cohen? who do you think faces serious criminal liability? well, i agree, i think the southern distr
testimony before congress last week, alex, is the fact that there are ongoing criminal investigations by the turn district of new york into donald trump, and he has been told, michael cohen s been told you can t talk about it. and so, that should send a chill down the spine of donald trump, his family members, and those that are involved in the trump organization, the trump foundation, the trump inaugural committee, everyone that is peripherally or directly voefld involved with donald trump and everyone in his sphere should be concerned that the southern district of new york is looking at pihim. and we know cohen might have a problem, but you can t cherry pick it or have it both ways. either he is telling the truth or is not and that was one of the more jaw-dropping moments during his congressional testimony last week, but i did find him to be credible. katie s with a comprehensive sense of what this should be, the conversation that is now under investigation. anything else you could
trump family, the trump business, the trump foundation. setting the ground work here for impeachment. that s the ultimate goal. these investigations are not about finding anything new. it s about volume. how many can we go with here and keep them running through the election. that s the goal. the president and the administration will be on the defensive from now until 2020. shannon: there won t be a line on the tax return that says $500,000 from vladimir putin. that won t be there. are they going after him for bragging how successfully he is financially? i have to believe if these tax returns reflected well, he would have put them in the public domain. he has a strange aversion to doing what every other president has done. shannon: he is unlike any
investigating trump s campaign ties to russia, potential conflicts of interest, possible money laundering and other oversight matters that democrats say were ignored under gop control. that includes calling a number of people in trump s orbit to testify, potentially including trump organization cfo allen weisselberg who cohen mentioned multiple times in testimony in front of the house oversight committee. weisselberg signed one of cohen s reimbursement checks for paying alleged hush money ahead of the 2016 election. joining me now, ariana berg, former federal prosecutor with the southern district of new york. marc fisher, senior editor with the washington post. also coauthor of trump revealed. mark, let me start with you. you know a lot about allen weisselberg and the role that he has played in sort of everything trump, right, the trump organization, the trump foundation. what is his role so far what has he been doing with authorities? he s had some limited immunity. and what can h