borisjohnson lied to the parliament, lied| to the voters. the question is, didl he do so knowingly? and i ve got my own views on that i think he did, i knowingly. but the question is, - can we hold him in contempt of parliament, is there enough evidence? - and he will get a fair hearing. i m just really interested in the fact you said that you think that you ve been talking today about what matters. i wonder how much you think it matters to people, because obviously people have been really angry about what s happened with this so called partygate saga, but i ve been out and about, i was talking a bit earlier about the fact i ve been out and about the past couple of days in bury in greater manchester, in london, and people aren t talking to me about this. they re talking about the cost of living. they re talking about other issues. you know, they re not volunteering their kind of outrage and anger right now about what s happening. it seems like, for a lot of people, actually, they ve
psy ops! no, no, no, no. ijust said, look, in the end you ve got to remember, . if you don t do your duty. to your voters, your voters will hold you to account. and so, and so voters- have an opportunity on may 5th to send a message to boris johnson and toi you as conservative mps. and they were so rattled, - i had, you know, conservative mps who i would consider sort of friends outside of politics, i you know, came up to me today and said, well, - what you said - was really unfair. and i was like, i it really wasn t. and i think i think that it s slowly dawning on them l that they do have a - responsibility to speak up. and the thing i found most extraordinary in all of thisi stuff about boris johnson and his conduct. - are they seriously saying that boris johnson is the best - that the conservative party has to offer? . you know, and i say this i as a labour politician and, you know, a lifelong labour supporter. .
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the conservative party isjust, factually it is the oldest - and most electorally successful political party in the history- of western democracy. and i do not understand how a party of winston churchill. and the big figures we ve seen across the 20th century - in particular has- been reduced to this. you are laying it on thick on these guys! ijust want to ask you one thing that you mentioned there when you said about how conservative mp had a responsibility to their voters. but again, coming to this point, a lot of people are saying actually they don t think that labour has been that brilliant in all of this. there s a sort of plague on both your houses sense in this as well. actually there s a lot of faith been diminished across the board. you know, it s not necessarily that people are going, oh, thank god, we ve got labour to sort all this out. yeah. so i definitely acknowledge i that there s collateral damage on the body politic - and on democracy generally and a bit of a plague on
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