here s what we know. in the middle of april paul ryan s chief of staff went to the house chaplain and asked him for his resignation. what was said in that meeting is very much in dispute so i ll come back to that later. bottom line, the chaplain offered a resignation letter that paul ryan accepted gnat sort of bubbled up late last week as members of the house heard about this and it bipartisans members were outraged by it. they said there was no reason for conroy to resign, they felt like he was doing a good job and they started to push back and questioning the motives thinking this was a political decision by paul ryan and didn t have anything to do with conroy s work as chaplain. fast forward to late yesterday afternoon the chaplain puts out a letter seasoned he s i m not going to resign and paul ryan if you have a problem with that you can come down here and fire me. within a short period of time ryan backed down, said he would let the chaplain finish out the year and that he would
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probably knew that details about this payment were likely to come out as a result of the raid and contradict the president s and other people s earlier statements, so he wanted to get out in public the fact that cohen, for example, had been reimbursed. so he wanted to put it out there that, hey, they lied about this, they misrepresented it, so the sting couldn t come from the southern district of new york or bob mueller. i want to share what ronnie deutsch said on morning joe because rudy giuliani has been saying about town this week, i m here to help the president, but he also said i want to help michael cohen. danny deutsch spoke to michael cohen yesterday. i want to share what he said. i spoke with michael cohen said and his quote about giuliani was he doesn t know what he s talking about. he said look, there are two people who don t know what happened, myself and the president, and you ll be hearing my side of the story. he was frustrated at what had
because they know that s one untruth. they re just not going to tell. the only thing we know for sure about this entire controversy is the president and his surrogates have consistently lied. they have been all over the place when addressing the scandal. now, i still find it hard to fathom that donald trump would actually repay any money he owed to anyone. if he could get away with not paying. especially a sum that was larger. you never hear of people talking about working at the trump organization because their salaries were so great. you never hear people talking about how donald trump is rushing to pay them. this is part of the reason he has trouble getting a great lawyer for his team. he s known to run away from all his legal fees. notorious over decades in new york city. i still find this story to be incredibly difficult to believe. eddie, back to this idea that rudy giuliani says he s in lock step with the president. they may be, but sarah sanders humiliated herself yesterday.
the chaplain gave a prayer in november during the debate about tax reform that some people thought this a political tone to it. he talked about the importance of fairness in the tax code and that is not create winners and losers. some people are pointing to that the. chaplain also says that paul ryan s chief staff made a remark something to the effect maybe it s time for the chaplain to not be catholic. the chief of staff disputes that strongly. paul ryan is, of course, also a catholic. there is definitely more to this story still to come. there certainly it. by goodness. thank you so much. coming up in the next hour, former trump campaign manager paul manafort is back in federal court in virginia as the special counsel s team is ramping up the pressure. we ll have a live report from right outside the courthouse.