would prevent mike pence from talking about certain things as he sat in the chair. he would have to testify about criminality. with that sort of ruling the devil is in the details and we need to see the precise language. even as mike pence and perhaps trump pursue a appeal, it looks like the die is cast and he will end up having to testify. and of the devil is in the details but can you say on that for a moment? mike pence is the ultimate witness for the event itself on generally six. when we get these details, could he end up with immunity that he doesn t have to actually talk about anything that happened on that day? it could just be, we want to hear about what happened before january 6. that is the whole thing. right, this is a good point. we will have to see the precise language in the judge s order
that final offer or punitive defendants. the die is cast, he knows it, and it will be a suicide mission for him to accept the offer. he won t do it. as we just noted michael cohen is testifying, though one could argue he s not the most credible of witnesses. he has lied before, but he s also pled guilty to making illegal payments to stormy daniels on the former president s behalf. here s what he said today in addition to what we told reporters. he said my goal was to tell the truth, allow alvin bragg and the d.a. and his team to do what they need to do. how significant do you think his testimony will be? if it goes to trial and it s important to keep in mind it ll be many months after the indictment until it finally does, his testimony is the center piece of the trial. he tells the story.
but it was also weaponized against her. in 1942, marilyn s life changes overnight. when marilyn was just past her 16th birthday she got married to a neighbor named jim dougherty who she barely knew. it was the idea of heea of hr mother, grace. grace arranged it, she and her husband were going to west virginia and they were going to put me in a home or i can marry this boy who is 21. she was a pragmatist. she had lived a difficult life, and that makes you a pragmatist. you look in front of you, these are my options, that looks like the best one, i ll take that one. marilyn doesn t have much time to get to know her new husband. the die is cast, america is at war. jim enlists in the marines and is sent to the south pacific.
on our editorial for this friday s show, and the theme of it really is good-bye democracy, because i think once we have this election, if the republicans know by all measures they re going to win this election you think? the party out of power almost always wins the midterm election any way, right? because it s the midterms. you got to throw the rascal out. everyone s acting like this is a normal time, but it s not. once they win, the die is cast. because what s going to happen is i think there s something like $291 people on the ballot for who are election denier or serious questioners. they don t believe in democracy. they don t believe the person with the most votes wins unless he s on our side. okay, so this is what trump has been doing behind the scenes, wanting to put these people in place. because let me tell you something, ari. on january 20th, my birthday, 2025, he s going to show up at
pushbacks against arrington has been, look, you lost the seat to a democrat before, let s not do that again. elect me, i brought it back. that s been one of her selling points, hanging on to the seat. at the end of the day, it is not a seat in jeopardy. you don t see the wave that went through as a congress the house was lost last go round. i do think she s going to be fine, period. someone else who has made an endorsement is south carolina governor, the former governor, nikki haley, who served in the trump administration as u.n. ambassador. she is on the outs with maga world, she campaigned with mace while trump is backing katie arrington. when it comes to south carolina, who do you think has more pull there, nikki haley or the former president? i think the former president, but, again, i think that the die is cast on that race. as we beoth know, endorsements