among people who would turn out to see him talk. and it greatly disturbed him, according to people who had spoken to trump about it. around that period of time, ron desantis stopped answering questions about vaccines specifically whether got boosted. we asked him. the news media in florida asked him, did you get boosted. he wouldn t answer the question. he said it was private information. and that led trump to call him gutless. so since that period of time, that s the defining moment where trump s political operation started looking at ron desantis to say he might try to outflank the former president on vaccines. understand donald trump is proud of operation warp speed. . it did help bring to market a number of vaccines, which most studies, almost all th experts say thank god for the vaccines. they saved 3 million american lives. but there s a portion of the base that doesn t believe it. and ron desantis is starting to be their champion. while he s out there being their champion, whe