former vice president, jumping into the race next week, and chris christie, who led trump s transition team, is also about to announce his bid. he s also made it crystal clear that he s not going to hold back trying to take down trump. joining me now at the table is former dnc communications director, national review senior editor, republican strategist rena shaw, and l.a. times columnist, granderson. now, this trump/desantis matchup has really heated up. i mean, i feel like just a week ago we were talking ability, will desantis really hit at him? he s hitting at him. yeah. and he s starting to name names. that s the important part right now. we need that. we need that fight from desantis. when i say, we, we the people who don t want donald trump to become that 47th president. i say this. in the moment we re in, it s so delicate for desantis. and he s got to do this dance, but he s got to do it well for a long time. we re so, so early out.
in terms of the death, limit yeah, i think he should come, up i mean, are you leading from the front, or are you waiting for polls to tell you what position to take? i would have taken the default if he had, too if you did not get it right. he is to say how great florida, was his whole family went to florida under my governorship. are you kidding me? and that was only week one. and, it will only get, worse especially with these a belt expands yet again. now if trump is mad about desantis, what is he going to say when mike pence s former vice president jumps into the race next week. chris christie who led trump s tanzanian as also about to announce his bid. he has also made it crystal clear that he is not going to hold back, trying to take down trump. joining me now at the table s communications director national review senior editor
this legal pressure that is engulfing donald trump to a degree he s clearly aware of. his former white house lawyer made waves and concerned people by ricking trump will go to jail over white house documents. now we have this short but unusual letter from donald trump s lawyers, signed by them, publicized by donald trump that reads like a cry for help or some sort of freakout. i can tell you straight up it s not a normal legal proceeding. it s addressed to attorney general merrick garland. the wall street journal made waves that the quays may be nearing the intend although no one can say what happened, it clearly had bad news in there at a minimum for trump with insiders bracing for a possible indictment. again, that s not news you can go to the bank with, but it s wall street journal, which is own by the murdoch empire, and that may among other things may have led trump to write this
among people who would turn out to see him talk. and it greatly disturbed him, according to people who had spoken to trump about it. around that period of time, ron desantis stopped answering questions about vaccines specifically whether got boosted. we asked him. the news media in florida asked him, did you get boosted. he wouldn t answer the question. he said it was private information. and that led trump to call him gutless. so since that period of time, that s the defining moment where trump s political operation started looking at ron desantis to say he might try to outflank the former president on vaccines. understand donald trump is proud of operation warp speed. . it did help bring to market a number of vaccines, which most studies, almost all th experts say thank god for the vaccines. they saved 3 million american lives. but there s a portion of the base that doesn t believe it. and ron desantis is starting to be their champion. while he s out there being their champion, whe
last night where he noted that trump made the decision that it was in his interest to publicize this investigation. the doj sort of played it by the book and were keeping it quiet. what do you think it is what would you say i know this is going to be speculative, but what do you think it would have led trump to determine it was in his interest to try to publicize that this had happened and do it the way he did. well, trump is an information warrior. i mean, he s very savvy with information warfare and he understands that getting his narrative out actually, you know, helps rally the people around him. ( and so i think we just need to distinguish between the court of public opinion and the court of law, and from a legal perspective, what i would say is to also approach the search from a national security angle. if he was in possession of classified documents, those are by definition potentially harmful to our national security if they result in any kind of disclosure or leak or som