case, what does it tell you? the story about the audio tape is enormously port for prosecutors. good splmart defense lawyers wod say do you have my guy on tape or not. and now trump acknowledges that he says a document is still classified. so it puts a lie to all of his claims that he declassified everything. and so jack smith has to be in the latter phases. he will make a recommendation to the attorney general who then has to reneview it. and this is going on for a long period of time. counter that with the vice president into his holding of
would be under the auspices of the fat archives which came knocking at one point, right? they would end up wherever a former president decides to have a library. this argument about the warehouse is a so what argument. when you get down to the law, prosecutors have to prove, one, donald trump had knowledge, did he know he had these documents? obviously. he s acknowledged that many times including in this recording. two, did he have some sort of criminal intent and one thing we ve learned from the reporting, he was doing something with those documents. he was using them to try to shape the public narrative about his time in office and let s remember, he has made these repeated false public claims about whether he declassified. we remember at the town hall kaitlan asked whether trump had ever showed classified documents to anyone and trump responded not really, i would have the right to. by the way, they were declassified after. we know that s not true. here he is after office saying t
also personalized this document. both of those arguments are called into question by paula and the reporting. first of all, there is just no evidence that it s been declassified. that might be contradicted by trump s own comments. the idea that he made a national security document a personal document would stretch thing it is you put it in front of a jury. but what you are hearing from the trump team is not a whole lot of new this and i said as much to jim trusty on wednesday. there s no real explanation for trump s conduct as reported by cnn and as put forward by the justice department as they have been engaging in this investigation. i don t think that has really changed. gloria, it s rather remarkable that this tape came about because of an interview that ghost writers for mark meadows were doing the former president s chief of staff, it was an interview they were
department fbi search at the mar-a-lago residence, but they didn t execute a physical search pursuant to a search warrant at the other locations. instead, they re serving subpoenas that require compliance. that s different had they executed their own search. there s still a question whether they would do that. or whether this document exists. could donald trump have been lying to impress people? a very important point that the d.o.d. could still have a copy of this in their system. you ve been speaking with the trump legal team. what kind of evolution are you seeing? when i spoke on wednesday about this, the defense was not really much of a defense. he was basically attacking the doj and attacking cnn, not offering much of a defense. and also trying to claim that trump did two things. one, he declassified, and he
jury to e. jean carroll case for him in his own words copping to something. the second, he acknowledges declassified thinking it or otherwise, he s waving around a piece of paper, or at least pretending to, we don t know that he says declassify. this person says it s an attempt to disseminate. i want to show it to you, but i can t. later on in the day, we didn t know. talk about how those three things bolster trump s exposure? boom, boom and boom, you could have taken your 45 seconds and put them in a government rebuttal argument. first, it blows out of the water the punitive state of mind defenses. which by the way, i ve been saying time and time again, it s time to think about this as it comes to a jury. if you take it manic as i do, that he won t testify, that how he s going to present his ideas