folks, we are followin breaking news this hour. when it comes to the manhattan grand jury investigating hus money payments to stormy daniels. trump s former fixer and a key witness in the case, michael cohen, revealed to my colleague, alex witt, and that he has bee told to be at the manhatta district attorney s office whe the grand jury meets tomorrow, just in case he s needed as rebuttal witness take a listen. whether it s before the grand jury or it s just to mee with them for an interview again, i m not sure. but, yes, i was asked to mak myself available and to be a the da s office tomorrow as rebuttal witness nbc news has now confirme that cohen maybe rebutting one of his own former lega
or, what happens mor frequently, in white-colla cases, is that the person is summoned that, is they are basicall given an invitation, or orde to show up to court on a specific day so, i think that s the mos likely thing to expect wit trump. i d love to know from you vantage point, paul, what yo think jacks mitt is looking fo in terms of potential restrain on the part of the da in all o this you know, the da s case i quite different from jack smit s it s a state case. the da s case is mainly abou donald trump, kind of before h became president so, i think that s the special counsel is worried that if trump is charged in multiple jurisdictions in federal court a state court in new york an the state court in georgia that could look like - but at the same time he s got responsibility for his own
this you know, the da s case i quite different from jack smit s it s a state case. the da s case is mainly abou donald trump, kind of before h became president so, i think that s the special counsel is worried that if trump is charged in multiple jurisdictions in federal court a state court in new york an the state court in georgia that could look like piling on but at the same time he s got responsibility for his own jurisdiction, in manhattan, to make sure that nobody is above the law, including donal trump. it does not matter that this i kind of a minor crime compared to some of the other allegations against trump. most of the cases that prosecutors are bringing our misdemeanors yeah, and i understand that as the da told me onset, we ar following the facts where they lead us. but i do think there has to be i would imagine the specia counsel would want the least
against mcquade, there is just no way in god s green eart that the da is going to invite the target to appear voluntarily in the grand jur if the da s not thinking o bringing those charges it is something that you d only at the very last stage. yes, there is always the cas for presidents legal team coul convince them they should no bring the case but given the amount of time i the caliber of the people in a office and thinking throug this issue i think that is extremely unlikely to occur. i think we are seeing, hate to use the word eminently since w heard the georgia da use tha term also. and, we are still waiting. but, i think this is the ver last step before we will see charges in manhattan so, andrew, let s get you t go a little further on that. your best gassed as to what th timeline might be.
to leave office. what i reported for the first time in this book is that the federal prosecutors convened a series of meetings in-house, where they said, do we do this or not? we know the bottom line they reached was no. what i found really interesting is it was not because of the evidence. the prosecutorial team at the southern district of new york felt they had enough evidence to indict donald trump for his role in the hush money payments. now, some on the team felt the evidence was enough to charge close to the line, others felt it was more than sufficient. ultimately, the feds held off because they felt there was political issues with bringing an indictment. plus, all the other incidents, january 6th, ukraine, mueller, would supersede them. if we re talking about the strength of the evidence when alvin s former office, the da s former office and my former office looked at it, they thought the evidence was enough. whether it carries over, we ll see. there was also tension