powerful? where would they draw that power? what are the rules of the game and how did you win? that s a big part of what this book is about. it s about the washington that predated trump and the washington he left in his wake. mostly though, it s about the people. joining us now is ben terrace, the author of the big break: the gambler, party animals and true believers to win in america while they lose their mind clon. that s a long title. it s an accurate capture. i thought the last line i read is most important is about people. right? for those that don t know, and i m unabashed big fan of your work, personally, so-so, but the work is very well known in washington for being the person who actually shows you the real, not kind of the scene of washington. that s why he is so talented and why this book is so fascinating. when he set out to write this book which is not for washington types. this is for people outside of the city who want to understand why the city is so insane
pennsylvania and charged with four counts of first-degree murder in the stabbing deaths as well as felony burglary. su cnn s jean cazares jones us from pennsylvania where that arrest was made. this is important for a number of different reasons. why? reporter: well, we just spoke and got off the phone with jason la bar, the chief public defender, who will be and is representing the defendant in this case, and he said that he has spoken with his client. he actually came to visit him right here at the correctional facility yesterday and he will be waiving extradition to expedite his trip back to idaho. so this is an answer that we have been wondering about because it is in his hands, kohberger s hands, what will happen in all of this. we got some more information. he also said that kohberger arrived here in northeastern pennsylvania, his home, on december 17th. and he has been here since then.
with social media 24-hour news cycles, sometimes in these investigations you find yourself in competition with that as much as anything else, trying to keep information from being public. and so i think they did a tremendous job. my hat s off to the moscow police department, idaho state police, fbi, everyone who participated. this was a complicated case that very well could have gone unsolved but they were able to bring it in. yeah, it s a complicated balancing act. i don t envy those who have to do it. they believed they reached the outcome they wanted. chief ramsey, a thanks so much for your time, sir. and we have lost a legend. barbara walters has died at the age of 93. coming up next, a look back at her legacy and the trail three blazed for women everywhere. it s our turn now we l ll make it up again. we ll build freelance teams with more agilitity. the old way of working is deader than me.
law enforcement how they handled this case, lack of information, conflicting statements near. do you believe in hindsight that k criticism wasn t merited? it wasn t merited. people who criticize, people who never conducted a homicide investigation for the most part. at the very beginning did they provide more information than they should have? for an example, this was a targeted attack. people in the community need not worry about anything. then they had to walk that back. they put too much information out in the early stages as opposed to the other way around. bad guys watch the news, too. and so you have to really be careful when you are putting information out publicly. and i know people want to know, but in order to solve the case, and that s the focus of law enforcement, is to get the person responsible for it. not just put out information. then you have to hold certain information close to the vest because in the era we re in now
murder in the stabbing deaths and felony burglary. an fbi surveillance team tracked him for several days before arresting him in his home state of pennsylvania, 2,500 miles away from where the murders occurred. kohberger is a graduate student in criminology at washington state university. cnn s gene caceres is in pennsylvania where this arrest was made. we were talking about this yesterday on air. what was the big case, the big break that you saw or that you picked up in this case? reporter: well, what we are hearing is it was the dna. a source familiar with the investigation confirmed with me last night that, in fact, it was genetic genealogy, that science that was used to lead them to this suspect. and genetic genealogy is relatively new, but it has solved major crimes in this in the last few years. of course, kohberger is innocent until proven guilty, but how genetic genealogy works is when they are canvassing a crime