horrible 25 minutes even though they could spend the next 23 hours attacking the speech. what do you think of the way they just sort of said we re not taking this, 40 no way, no how in. i think it s really insulting. not just bad for business, but bad for media. that speech got really big ratings for a lot of folks, and the question is the newsworthiness of a speech from a leading presidential candidate is not determined by how smart you think your audience is, by your perception of to your audience s ability to interpret it responsibly, and that s what rachel maddow is saying. you can t be trusted to know that this guy might be exaggerating like politicians do. he might be making things up. that s not her job howard: no politician has ever done that. right. [laughter] and that s the audiences job audience s job. i think it s insulting. we re almost ten years into the trump era, they still haven t learned that lesson and double down on bad discussions. howard: in fairness, ot
criticism, and i m reluck ant to criticize any press secretary. let me just point this out. i cannot understand how somebody who s been in the job as long as she s been doesn t talk about foreign policy. she s letting john kirby do the heavy lifting that is the burden, the chore and the joy of the press secretary. press secretaries have to be responsible for the answerrings. she speaks for the president. this bifurcation is only because john kirby is so much better at it than she is, and no to press secretary should want anybody to be better at their job hand they are. howard: whatever you think of the indictment of the president, trump, former president trump, the stormy daniels case, how is it that donald trump has been absolutely buried under all this negative publicity, has gone up in the polls, gone up in fund fund raising where most candidates would probably be crushed? yeah. my gut tells me the only reason this is happening is because the
most confidents get ahead of their own defendants get ahead of their own trials and he starts to talk about that, you know, that would prejudice a jury, and perhaps that would push the judge over the line because you can t do that. howard: yeah. that was mentioned by the prosecutors, and i think i don t think a judge wants to impose a gag order. it ll be good if he didn t. on the other hand, i don t think we ve heard the last of some of these leanings. so i watched all the these lines. i watched all the coverage which is part of the job, and trump s going to speak at mar-a-lago. and on msnbc just before he starts, rachel maddow says this: this is basically a campaign speech in which he is preeting his same lies and allegations existence his perceived enemies. it is the just getting started. so far he s giving his norm list of grievances, we don t consider that newsworthy. howard: msnbc decrees viewers shouldn t see his speech for 5 minutes because that would be
expectations that go along being a historic first. expectations that you can t have on a mike pence, that you didn t have on a dick cheney, that you can t have on a joe biden. you can t see this criticism of them out there, and it s not because they were going out and solving world peace or going out there [laughter] or going out there and having these magical viral moments, it s just that they weren t facing the same expectations. and i think kamala harris does have really high expectations for her based on that historic status and the fact that she ran for president in 2020 and people are looking at her as a potential future president. so, yes, i understand that there is criticism of herr, but she has of her, but she has the ability to blunt it. and being vice president is a really, really tough, thankless job, not very gam rouse. that s why the only show about being vice president is veep which is essentially a come key the of err errors errors. howard: liz smith, thanks for c
performances. and she steals it from him. i think you have had enough. i think so too. behind the scenes, the conflict with olivier is splintering marilyn s relationship with her friend and coproducer, milton green. he would get up every day, go to pinewood and be a producer, which meant calm everybody, make sure everybody shows up. it s a thankless job. milton found himself at times siding with olivier, or at least feeling sympathy for olivier. marilyn then started to think, well, he must be on olivier s side. by this point, marilyn was also having trouble sleeping. she took a lot of sleeping pills every night. when you re filming, you have