nancy pelosi that may show president trump just how vulnerable he could soon become. do you believe the special counsel should honor and observe the department of justice guidance that states a sitting president cannot be indicted? i do not think that that is conclusive. no, i do not. could robert mueller come back and say i am seeking an indictment? i think that is an open discussion. i think that is an open discussion in terms of the law. it is that open discussion that may come to define the remainder of trump s presidency. as special counsel robert mueller marches toward a crucial final phase of the russia investigation with legal experts predicting the biggest indictments are still to come. and as if to confirm that the president and his legal team are feeling the pressure, his attorney rudy giuliani has resumed his legal publicity tour, making the types of appearances we tend to see when he wants to get ahead of big
there was also news about matthew whitaker, the acting attorney general, revealing the ins and outs or some of the ins and outs of an investigation currently under something currently under investigation in the doj. what do you make of that? to somebody who is not currently employed at the doj? acting ag whitaker reveals federal prosecutors still investigating claims of gop misconduct. it s an incredibly distressing piece of news. the story, and we get it from the person on the other end of the conversation, former attorney general ed meese, says he had lunch with acting attorney general whitaker and during that lunch, whitaker disclosed to him details of the ongoing doj investigation that involves hillary clinton s e-mails, whatever mismash former attorney general sessions managed to put together. this is ethically inappropriate, and the acting attorney general should immediately be referred
confirmed as attorney general, and they would not permit a sitting president to be indicted. but even if he is not indicted, impeachment is still on the table. nancy pelosi didn t rule that out either today. of course not. look, i think a substantial portion of her party would like to impeach the president and believes there s already enough on the table to do so. she is saying let s not get thaefd mueller investigation. let s go step by step. there s no reason for democrats to push the envelope despite pressure from their own base. and until there s an alarm to taeblg, she is right. let s play that sound one more time. many democrats are talking about impeachment. you ve said it would be sad and divisive for the country. it would be. to pursue impeachment. are you willing to rule it out? we have to wait and see what happens with the mueller report. we shouldn t be impeaching for a
developments in the investigation. and he appears to be honing that defense. he s been preparing against mueller s findings which sounds a little something like this. maybe trump and his campaign did collude with russia. obstruct an investigation. and run a hush money scheme to help win an election. so what? this is an investigation in search of a crime and they haven t found one yet. collusion is not a crime. it s not a crime! firing comey is not a crime. it s a campaign krcontributions are not criminal. they re paying off a possible civil judgment. this is make up a crime, make up a crime, make up a crime hoping to find one eventually. joining us, chief white house correspondent peter baker, former u.s. attorney joyce vance, former federal prosecutor paul butler and nick confessore for the new york times. well, it s hard to come after a response like that, but peter baker, i m going to hand it over
pelosi has brought over an experienced former doj lawyer who left shortly after this administration began. a guy named doug letter who was in doj s civil appellate division. he ll run a tight shop. subpoenas will start flying. this will be a serious investigation. it won t be a witch hunt. it won t be scattergun. i expect it will be tightly focused and congress will engage in its job which is oversight. a normal presidency might be annoyed but could withstand it. this presidency, it could be a fatal blow, frankly. it s not just the president himself. there s going to be investigations potentially and subpoenas coming to the president s own family, joyce. i think that s right. you know, this is a multifront investigation. certainly congress will be interested in the activities of all senior trump officials, including ivanka and jared but also this double threat at least coming out of the southern district of new york. maybe a triple threat coming from the new york attorney