i think even when it comes to a choice between obama? yes. the turnout rates are going to be the same from what i see. i think they want to be taken seriously. they want to seem like they are players. i hate to be blunt about it, but if they don t have ads to put on tv, they don t count. especially compared to the super pacs. drop a couple million in florida. tony perkins is a guy we respect. he s organizing a texas meet in. he says some have portrayed this as an anti-romney rally. it s not. it s discomfort among evangelicals. that s an easy way of saying i don t like the guy, but it sounds nicer. i think for evangelicals, you re right to single them out. but in the south, it s about theology. it s a discomfort. there s issues where they see a flip-flop.