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Effective how we ultimately classified . At this point if the questions on there, at this point was to be classified openly as white, correct . That depends what omb decides. Thats something we are waiting. A good question. One of the standards that the office of management and budget is contemplating right now is whether mena should be a new minimum category. So they are going to make the decision whether that is the case or not. Right now the Census Bureau classifies mena under white and thats how we are proceeding forward until were told otherwise. We are going to move on to the other speakers and then well opened it up for a discussion as to before i know the pdc has been working on this issue literally since were founded about 37, 40 some years ago and i got involved when he came on board but i can tell you these guys test everything to death. They literally test where they put commas, so you may put this is a slow, arduous process, and it is, but as i say, well get there. Next i

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