she described it. said she wasn t scared and the exchange they also had was that he said one of them, we want to start a war in london and she said, well, it s only you against a lot of people and so you are going to lose. just listen to what else she had to say. were you not scared for yourself in that situation? no. why not? better me than a child. because, unfortunately, there were mothers with children stopping around. and more important that i talk to him and ask him what he wanted. she was amazingly brave, carol. a couple of other women too on the scene confronting these guys as well. but this woman, ingrid lawyer kenett. and a school teacher, turned cub scout leader, turned terrorist