kat on this. i don t think it makes us safer. the constitutional sense is if it s designed to keep us safer and intended to have national security benefits which i think it does. kat: fulfilling a campaign promise. he wants to be tough on terror guy. i wasn t making a judgment. i m just saying that s what i think this is more about. eric: we don t know that either. let me be maybe it does make us safer. maybe they take the 90 days and say there is a loophole we didn t realize that s been here and guess what. we are going to close the loophole and keep terrorists out. i am for going over the bounds on being more safe. eboni: you like being safer safer. kat: it appears the house has enough votes to pass kate s law.
this is why we need to send funding into the nsa. there was a big hoopla over, they re spying on us, the american people. please, spy on me. i want my country safe. i have nothing to hide and most americans feel that way. that was former fbi terror guy, steve rogers, saying in light of these latest roundings up of potential isis recruits in minnesota and elsewhere, now is the time to give in the nsa the money and power to spy away. judge andrew napolitano agrees. i know steve. i like him. we re both from essex county, new jersey. he has a great reputation in law enforcement there and even has a national reputation. he is profoundlied a odds with the fourth amendment to the constitution which says not all spying is wrong. only spying not based upon a search warrant issued by a judge based on probable cause is wrong. stated differently if the government has evidence about a bad person and they present that evidence to a judge they can
actually did because now we re going to be putting all that information out to the terrorists and the rest of the world, telling everyone what the united states is trying to do to combat terrorism? brian: the damage is done. there is a column in the washington beacon and he s got great source. he s a terror guy and go to guy. he says the prism created an uproar within al-qaeda. they ve shifted communications. the jihaddists have to more secure areas. when it comes to microsoft, that s key for our success. they re telling all their guys to get out of microsoft immediately. leave windows behind and go to linix. on software, they called on al-qaeda members to shift to one called tour. that s secure right now. and to use jitsu as a software program, urging everyone to leave the ones that were listed in our leaker s documents that came out from the prism program. they re already making moves. don t let anybody tell you this has not affected the people
understandable that you could give an answer you could wiggle out of. megyn: let me ask you about this a.p. thing. you are tough on terror guy. a lot of the republicans defended these leak probes, although there were far fewer under president bush. leaking national security information that is going to endangering the lives of the american public. i was one of the biggest complainers during the bush years they did nothing about this. i applaud the obama administration for being concerned about national security leaks. i fault them for closing national security leaks they do the days not cracking down on it. megyn: they found it favorable to them. exactly. here is the thing. here in the u.s. attorney s office subpoenaing the press is a major big deal. when you do it you are supposed
steve says maybe bin laden was planning it. boy, in that case he really is a devious son of a gun. bret: charles, what happens now? relations, pressure. what is next? look, i think we have to be a grown-up about this. i think it s very of course and i m sadden that steve is so soft on pakistan. brennan who said inconceivable that there were not elements in the military or isi who didn t know this. accept it as a given. accept that we have often had allies in wars unreliable. after world war ii, stalin was our ally and we didn t tell him everything for obvious reasons. let s look ahead and say let s not talk about bin laden. let s talk about who is still alive? let s talk about the indonesian that is the top terror guy in indian ocean,