In the United States because you would need an American Embassy for that well apparently they were wrong quick tribalist the riots and even the seizure of government buildings containing our americas foes taking being democratic uprising in the worlds most celebrated democracy to discuss and im now joined by David Kilcullen perhaps our own international and Political Studies at the university of New South Wales and the author of dry runs. How the rats learn to buy it was called and great to talk to you congratulations on your latest book and you for having me its great to be here now i know that its not your original idea to refer its you adversaries as rap tiles and i am. Wrong. Bill clintons 1st cia director but since you build a narrative around it i assume youre blinded snooty what are you still whining about it for you. I think that so just to say this book is a book about military adaptation and its about how different players adapted over time and i begin the book at the end of
Neda celebrates its 70th anniversary isnt it finally time to think its not about retirement done at least a change of course to discuss that im now joined by yusuf political analyst for turkey state run broadcaster tara tara world is to everymans good to talk to you thank you very much for your time thank you now turkey has been a member of nato since 9 to 52 year its the 2nd Largest Military in deadlines its taken part in many of its operations including the one in libya which triggered the largest migration crisis of did take it with a profound effect on turkey and south as nato celebrates its anniversary is it more of a reason for celebration or perhaps contemplation in turkey. Well i definitely think its a time for contemplation because nato right now is lacking a Strategic Vision many of the allies inside nato right now have very did different threat perceptions inside of their own Domestic National Security Apparatus and when they dont comes together as the 29 members it has a pr
What does turkey gotten out of it were seeing that turkey has been isolated right now especially in syria when it has a Serious National Security threat most namely the presence of the syrian army of the u. S. Designated e. U. Designated Terror Organization the p k k im talking about the why p. G. There syrian army turkey has repeatedly make calls to nato to recognize this group as a Terror Organization theyve made calls for support theyve also asked for support regarding a safe zone in northeast syria and turkey has been left all by itself on this matter and frankly the turks and the administration feel very very betrayed by their u. S. Allies and nato allies if its given so much its if its receiving so little whats the point of still being a member of this organization that is pretty costly and that is targeting one of the countries that turkey considers so. Partner which is russia they go still does have many values it is a 29. 00 Member Alliance its a huge insurance policy for turk
As a Terror Organization theyve made calls for support theyve also asked for support regarding a safe zone in northeast syria and turkey has been left all by itself on this matter and frankly the turks and the administration feel very very betrayed by their u. S. Allies and nato allies if its given so much its if its receiving so little whats the point of still being a member of this organization that is pretty costly and that is targeting one of the countries that turkey considers so its partner which is russia they go still does have many values it is a 29. 00 Member Alliance its a huge insurance policy for turkey an insurance policy against want or against whom well that remains to be seen you dont know when youre going to need insurance thats why its called insurance mean to you you need insurance right now you just said that terrorism is a major Security Threat for terry can you are dealing with it all. On the receiving no so boards and a lot of criticism from your nato allies so
Their u. S. Allies and nato allies if its given so much its if its receiving so little whats the point of still being a member of this organization that is pretty costly and that is targeting one of the countries that turkey considers so its partner which is russia they go still does have many values it is a 29. 00 Member Alliance its a huge insurance policy for turkey an insurance policy against want or against whom well that remains to be seen you dont know when youre going to need insurance thats why its called ensuring the you you need insurance right now you just said that terrorism is a major Security Threat for turkey i mean you are dealing with it all along that receiving no support then the lot of criticism from your nato allies so again why do you need that insurance policy for 4 weeks youre a paying a lot and not get it getting too much in return your church that. It is correct and thats one of the things that needs to be reevaluated but it is a very important surance policy