Yes, i believe so. Okay. And this is just investigation, generally making a public to of openness generally. Right . I think by august 11th, mr. Castor, i think we were talking about 2016 and burisma. The investigation generally was really early in the but do we know that Secretary Pompeo knows that . I think so. Why . Only because i think councilor breakable was briefed on all of these things. By who, by you . I think ambassador volker, by myself. Does not he testified to. I didnt know he testified. Ambassador volker. Oh, okay. He didnt testified that he briefed mr. Brechbuhl. This email to the secretary, he is talking about the statement
which by the way, you said that the statement didnt go anywhere. Ambassador volker said it wasnt a good idea. Mr. Yermak said it wasnt a good idea. The secretary, it relates to a generic openness subject. Right . Yeah, i think the secretary that was on the july 25th call. Which obviously i was not on and i didnt know about. But you use this email to
you are capable of putting two and two together. so are the ukrainians. they can put two and two together as well. they understood there was a hold on security assistance. there was testimony that they understood that in july or august. it was without a doubt understood when it was made public in the newspaper. they understood the security assistance was being held up, right? i don t know when they understood it, but presumably they did. well, certainly, once it was public they understood the security assistance was withheld, right? once it was public i assume so, yes. and indeed that was one of the issues brought up in that meeting between volker and pence in warsaw? i think as i testified previously, chairman, zelensky, if i recall, ask the question more open-ended. like, when did we get our money? [laughs] well, okay. so they understood they didn t have the money yet. it was approved by congress, there was a hold on it.
is that right? might be here for 46 minutes and set of 45 minutes. wasn t purposeful. you couldn t fit it in a 22 page opener. the most important statement about the subject matter at hand. the president of the united states in a direct conversation with you about the issue at hand of the president said, what you want from ukraine, mr. president? i want nothing. i want no quid pro quo. i want this new guy, brand-new guy in politics, his party just took over. i want zelensky to do the right thing. i want him to run on a do what he ran on witches deal with corruption. and you can find time to fit that in the 22 page opening statement. you know what a quid pro quo is? i do. this for that, right? looks to me like ukraine got that three times and there was no this. we didn t do anything. they didn t have to do anything.
ready? you have the cameras rolling? i want nothing. that s what i want from ukraine. that s what i said. i want nothing. i said it twice. so he goes he asked me the question, what do you want? i keep hearing all these things, what do you want? he finally gets me. i don t know him very well, i have not spoken to him much. this is not a man i know well. seems like a nice guy, though. but i don t know him well. he was with other candidates. he actually supported other candidates, not me. came in late. but here s my response. if you weren t fake news, he would cover it properly. i say to the ambassador in response, i want nothing, i want nothing. i want no quid pro quo. tell zelensky, president zelensky, to do the right thing. so here s my answer.
quid pro quo, and particularly on this issue of whether ukraine would have to do something in order to get an oval office meeting at a photo call with the president, he is at the same time saying, whoa, when it comes to the aid, i never heard from president trump that there was any kind of quid pro quo. even in that telephone call he was told repeatedly by the president that there is no quid pro quo. if you have time, can repay that last little back and forth between steve castor and sondland? when i ask of the open-ended question, as i testified previously, what do you want from ukraine came out his answer was, i want nothing, i will note quid pro quo. tell zelensky t to to the right thing. that s all he got from president trump. did you also get from president trump, as reflected by dancer taylor, they said he was adamant that president zelensky had to clear things up and do it in