donald trump. danya, i want to know if you agree with harry s analysis base of the vice president trump pence. i want to know what you know about fun euless. yeah, i absolutely agree with harry. i do think that we are not going to see the same type of investigation out of arizona as we are seeing out of fulton county, but i think that this kind of information could be hugely cooperative and supported, if there are charges out of georgia and if there are charges by special counsel s office with respect to iger with harry. false electors will be a focus, should be a focus. but the calls to georgia secretary of state and his investigator will likely be point of emphasis. even though we did not have the recording, the testimony that we are hearing about, testimony
slamming him as akok and a big. but since donald trump took office in 2017, graham has changed his tune, turning into one of trump s most faithful supporters. the pair often go golfing together. later this year, graham even appeared on national television, choking up as he stumped for trump s 2024 bid, and solicited money from viewers. the ex president and his legal defense pressed for his first indictment here in new york. 2024 is the most important election in my lifetime. america literally is at stake as we know it, is at stake as we know it. i m sorry and so upset. but, please, help president trump. if you can find four, five, ten bucks, just pray. make sure you vote as early as you can in your state. don t risk anything anymore. vote as soon as you can. pray for this country, pray for this president. and if you got any money to give, give it. but none of that helped him in his state and in his home
government. it would be surprising at this point given the speed that special counsel is no working, it would seem logical that juicy has now met with and spoken with investigators and prosecutors. philip it was striking to me that doocy, in response to the washington post is like, this is all caught and paste, right? this is all stuff we already knew. there is a nugget here that we did not know. i just wonder what doocy s political calculus is here. we all understand pence s political calculus is here. why not have governor to see come out and say, this is what he said. let me tell you as it was told to me. i guess if you are a republican official who is under that spotlight from donald trump in a post election period, you recognize i mean, look, misapprehension about donald trump can get his people to do too if you disagree with him. we saw what happened on january six. where is the value?
he wasn t even willing to put his neck out there for him. i think that s exactly right. it is all or nothing in terms of trump s loyalty. and you see that even in the ten or 12 house members that either voted to impeach, or when trump came out for a primary opponent and they lost the voting records. even liz cheney s voting records i think we re the 90%, consistent with donald trump. but that wasn t good enough. there s this faultline that if you are not with trump of the time, you are gone. i think jennifer has it exactly right. the reason lindsey graham got booed is because those voters of south carolina look at donald trump, and even though he may be wrong, they see him as strong. like, the one thing he is is smash mouth consistent, donald trump, he doesn t back down. you see ron desantis trying to take that emblem from donald trump himself. i m not gonna back down either. lindsey graham has back down time again and time again. he has flip-flopped. he s been inconsistent. i think
coordinating all these other pieces in there. so, i think this interview is really setting the stage for all these other interviews that are happening. all of the people who are sort of closest to donald trump, who had some real proximity to power, i also think it s really interesting these to nevada fake electors who ran fake immunity in exchange for testifying before a d.c. grand jury, because there are all these folks who argue, i was just doing what the guys at the top told me to do. i was just following these people who i perceive to have a lot of power. what is it that these two folks might be able to share? what could their testimony reveal differently than someone who is very close to the epicenter of what was happening? it might reveal who put them up to it. okay, let s say i want to be a fake elector. do i apply online? like, how do i do that? somebody calls me and says, hey,