it s almost sanctioned to bully gay people and treat them as second-class citizens. and i get very nervous when the parents of these so-called bullies defend them saying, oh, kids will be kids. when you find out that the teen suicide rate is four times higher for a gay person. think about how tragic suicide is, period. but why would you want to make it four times higher? and for what? these kids are just being themselves. so i think a lot of the so-called religious leaders play into it and the politicians certainly aren t doing enough. there s a lot of very right-wing conservative people that absolutely sanction this behavior. and there s a lot you can do to finally put a stop to it. larry: you re not saying that this religious person would say it s okay to bully a gay person. they may say really? have you talked to jim demint today? larry: he would say it s okay to bully someone? he doesn t think there should be gay teachers. so yeah, what i m saying is when i say so-calle
it s almost sanctioned to bully gay people and treat them as second-class citizens. and i get very nervous when the parents of these so-called bullies defend them saying, oh, kids will be kids. when you find out that the teen suicide rate is four times higher for a gay person. think about how tragic suicide is, period. but why would you want to make it four times higher? and for what? these kids are just being themselves. so i think a lot of the so-called religious leaders play into it and the politicians certainly aren t doing enough. there s a lot of very right-wing conservative people that absolutely sanction this behavior. and there s a lot you can do to finally put a stop to it. larry: you re not saying that this religious person would say it s okay to bully a gay person. they may say really? have you talked to jim demint today? larry: he would say it s okay to bully someone? he doesn t think there should be gay teachers. so yeah, what i m saying is when i say so-calle
issues around this. i also want to add when wanda cites the churches, the human rights campaign has a statistic, which is that there are still 33 states in this nation where one can be fired for being gay. so that puts gay people in the same category as those who are committing heinous crimes. and what does that really mean? it s a conundrum for me. larry: do you think, kathy, that society, heterosexual society looks the other way? look, let s cut the crap. i think that the way that we had trickle-down economics in the 80s, this is trickle down homophobia. and i really want people to connect the dots. that s why i think there s a connection between prop 8, don t ask, don t tell, and now the string of teen suicides. it s almost sanctioned to bully gay people and treat them as second-class citizens. and i get very nervous when the parents of these so-called bullies defend them saying, oh, kids will be kids. when you find out that the teen
ask, don t tell, and now the string of teen suicides. it s almost sanctioned to bully gay people and treat them as second-class citizens. and i get very nervous when the parents of these so-called bullies defend them saying, oh, kids will be kids. when you find out that the teen suicide rate is four times higher for a gay person. think about how tragic suicide is, period. but why would you want to make it four times higher? and for what? these kids are just being themselves. so i think a lot of the so-called religious leaders play into it and the politicians certainly aren t doing enough. there s a lot of very right-wing conservative people that absolutely sanction this behavior. and there s a lot you can do to finally put a stop to it. larry: you re not saying that this religious person would say it s okay to bully a gay person. they may say really? have you talked to jim demint today? larry: woe say it s okay to bully someone? he doesn t think there should be gay teachers.
saying they are not going to see any jail time. bill: they should. but they might see a civil case by the family of this poor boy. bill: i don t think there is any doubt about it that these kids will be sued. not just gay teens, margaret. you remember the case in the midwest where that mom of all things faked that she was a boy who was interested in the girl down the street? and that girl then committed suicide? absolutely. it s not just gays. i would say gay teen suicide rate is four times higher than suicide rate. it s happening everywhere. bill: any vulnerable group and gays are very vulnerable is going to be targeted by these kinds of people. but how they could think they could get away with it because you do this, what do you think that nobody is going to see it? which is a great example. these kids need to be made an example of. bill: i think they should go to jail, too. i agree with you. they could get one to five years in prison. bill: they should go for a y