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election interference trials, one of them encompassing the insurrection on january 6 and one pending classified documents trial for retaining and hiding records, government records, some of them containing top secret nuclear intelligence haven t driven away donald trump s voters, what will last week s felony conviction for falsifying documents and to conceal them and to conceal that information from voters in 2016 really do? in other words, what more do voters really need to know about donald trump? or to put a finer point on it, how many more voters need to know more about donald trump? believe it or not, there are quite a few. the new york times went back and interviewed nearly 2,000 people, some of them who said a conviction would make them rethink voting for donald trump. we re going to tell you the results of their survey in just a moment, but first here is what some of those voters said, quote, we all know if donald trump gets reelected he s going to try to be a dicta

message. i think you do have to push economic messages as well. there s a lot of things that are hard about the divided media ecosystem that make it tougher on the biden campaign, for example, if you pay attention to the news, you re wildly for joe biden. if you don t you re not. so it s hard to reach those people. the good news is you don t have to choose what message you want to emphasize. and that s a good point. i also can t imagine that republicans would shy away from going after somebody who had a conviction, even if it wasn t at all related to trying to influence an election. i can t imagine republicans would have any hesitancy whatsoever or worry about the optics as democrats do. thank you so much, jen. good to have you. appreciate it. and thanks to deirdre and vaughn as well for the reporter. what happened when a former trump adviser steve bannon was ordered to report to prison? this happened today. coming up next, we will tell you what the judge ordered ban non s lawyer to

and that is one that is living out today. no matter the indictment, no matter the conviction, among the republican voter electorate the majority side with donald trump and side with him even in the conviction. if you are somebody like a carrie lake who has a senate primary just over a month from now, you hedge your bets and a pretty good bet is to stand next to donald trump in solidarity with him as opposed to the other guy mark lam who is running against her in that primary because the extent to which you can buddy up and defend donald trump really provides you the bona fides to be the true stalwart of the republican party under donald trump in the year of 2024. listen, the trump team will tell you look at all the money we ve raised since the conviction, look at what it s done for our ability to campaign. obviously a lot of money is going to go to his legal bills that are still mounting. deirdre, in talking about the fundraising there has been a shift among the very, very wealthy in

got his i m going to get you list, said a man from georgia. quote, if a person who received 34 felony convictions in one day can still run for president, why can my guy not apply for a job at a gas station, said a woman from pennsylvania. and, quote, what is going to happen with him? is this judge going to put him in jail if i knew that robert kennedy jr. would have a real shot i would vote for him, said a man from nevada. which leads us to our million dollar question, the one that we will have until november, does the conviction swing the votes? and what are the campaigns doing about it? joining us now in phoenix is nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, anchor of cnbc s tech check deirdre bosa and former white house communications director under president obama and msnbc political analyst jen palmeri. all right. there are a lot of open questions here, not ones that are easy to answer. vaughan, this polling suggests

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