about how the president tried to force it to an end. did you hear any part of the phone calls? yeah, i remember hearing the word wind. and i remember he said, you are our wind. new information today on the danger of the vice president faced as a result of the threats to his life, and the president know that that s what he s done. i am betrayed the united states of america. new evidence today showing that people working with the president to enact the scheme. they knew what they were doing was illegal. doctor eastman s emails stated, quote, i ve decided that i should be on the departments list, if that still in the works. and a crucial warning about the enduring threat to the country. donald trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present danger to american democracy. tonight, the member of the investigation who like today s hearings, congressman pete aguilar. plus, nicole wallace, joy reid, chris hayes, lawrence o donnell, ari melber, stephanie r
investigation makes it case, day three, a losing presidential candidate, pressed to force his running mate, the vice president, to throw out the election results, to overthrow the u.s. government. when mr. eastman came in, he said, i m here to request that you reject the electors. new witness testimony today about how the president tried to force it to an end. did you hear any part of the phone calls? yeah, i remember hearing the word wimp. and i remember he said, you are a wimp. new information today on the danger the vice president faced as a result of the threats to his life, and the president knowing that that s what he had done. mike pence has betrayed the united states of america. new evidence today showing that people working with the president to enact the scheme. they knew what they were doing was illegal. doctor eastman s emails stated, quote, i ve decided that i should be on the parted lust, if that is still in the works. and a crucial warning abo
dangerous theory, and would not let go, because he was convinced it would keep him in office. congressman pete aguilar, democrat of california, who led day three of the january 6th hearings today. joining us now, and i m happy to say it is congressman aguilar. congressman, i know it has been a long and dense day for you. thanks for being with us. thanks for having me, rachel. tell us about the significance of all the evidence you showed today, that john eastman and presumably, according to our evidence, the president himself, both knew that the block that they were pursuing on january 6th, they knew it was illegal. why is that important? well, it s important to build off of the last hearing that we had, which established the president knew he lost the election. and so, now, he knows he lost the election. now, we are getting to november and december, from a timeline perspective. they re failing lawsuits, 62
have had that power. but we should do this today. so he didn t meet the vice presidency was the portal. he meant this one guy, and that if we can weaken him. i was struck by the relentlessness of eastman. he keeps coming back to greg jacob over and over. how about this doing? how about that way of doing it? they knew that these were uncertified electors. you can just say i declare these electors. maybe this group here were electors. we decided, they re not certified. but they were relentless, and they were trying to break pence. and you re absolutely right. we were one mike pence away from a coup. at that point about the relentlessness of this, i think eastman has made it eminently clear, even since this is all happened, as he s confining with a committee, that he s not acting on his own behalf. that he is the lawyer of the president of united states. the president was trying. that is why he was doing this. that is where the relentlessness comes from. yeah, you can tell in the way,
in light of everything that we ve discussed, can t we just both agree that this is a terrible idea? and he couldn t quite bring himself to say yes to that, but he, very clearly, said, well, yeah, i say we re not gonna be able to persuade you to do this. and that was at the meeting concluded. the discussion between the witnesses today that we heard from, greg jacob, and dr. john eastman, this lawyer working for trump on the spot, and it are being sort of through line of today s entire hearing. but it revealed one very clear think, and i m not sure it was ever clear before today, with all of the investigations that we ve seen, all of the public facing reporting on. this we finally got the connection between the illegality of their plot and the fact that there was violence. a big portion of the hearing today was about how john