in working practices which would mean more people could actually work from home and the civil service would need less office space. instead of that we have a government forcing people back into offices when it could be saving the taxpayer hundreds of millions of pounds, simply because of ideological obsession. the difficulty i think for civil servants is to understand exactly what the government wants. do you want to save money orjust keep making headlines? as you say there is a lack of detail at the moment but if there were cuts to the order of around 90,000 jobs, what services would be affected in your opinion, what would be hit and what couldn t be done that is being done now? the difficulty is they have picked this pre brexit figure, 2016, the number of civil servants who were there in 2016. that was the smallest civil service there has been since the second world war. it had already been cut by around 25% by the coalition and conservative government up to that point. then what the
service save £500 million by reducing its estate in the period between 2010 and 2015. since then we have had a revolution in working practices which would mean more people could actually work from home and the civil service would need less office space. instead of that we have a government forcing people back into offices when it could be saving the taxpayer hundreds of millions of pounds simply because of ideological obsession. the difficulty i think for civil servants is to understand exactly what the government wants. do you want to save money orjust keep making headlines? figs want to save money or ust keep making headlines? want to save money or ust keep making headlines? as you say there is a lack of detail making headlines? as you say there is a lack of detail at making headlines? as you say there is a lack of detail at the making headlines? as you say there is a lack of detail at the moment - is a lack of detail at the moment but if there were cuts to the order of aro
neil: it s weird, these are two liberals, but very different views how far you go on some liberal issues. jeff bezos never once responded to criticisms from donald trump, but he didn t waste a nano second from criticism of bernie marcus not bernie marcus. because he doesn t like being attacked from the left that way. it s interesting, when you look at what bernie is saying, and the ability to do this, although they ll do it next week. neil: attacks on companies that don t in their view pay people enough because they have to rely on government benefits. like food stamps. this is interesting because actually i think they re correct in their diagnosis of the problem, but totally wrong in their prescription. the reason they re correct is that it is absolutely true that this welfare bureaucracy that costs the taxpayer hundreds of billions is partly caused by the fact that millions and millions
you are spending every taxpayer hundreds of unnecessary dollars as is shown by states reducing the prison populations and reducing crime. we re wasting hundreds and hundreds of dollars. in fact at a time that our roads and bridges are crumbling crumbling between 1995 and 2006 alone, we were building a new prison in this country every ten days. the system is way out of whack. people are getting disproportionate sentences to their crime, wasting their potential and it s having a profound impact a generational impact on our country. american poverty would be 20% less if we had an incarceration system that was on line with our industrial peers. from 1980 to 2004, would have been 20% lower if not for this mass incarceration, what you call an economically crippling collateral consequences here. the president calls it a broken system. besides infrastructure and the poverty, what are the stories you re hearing from the people in your communities in new jersey? most people don t understan
doors, isn t it, marjorie? this isn t going to make any difference. it just annoys people, doesn t it? well, i don t know. i think there s a lot of criticism of are you taking accountability. are you still taking vacations, or, you know, and it gets pointed at the president. and so i think, you know, a lot of these types of decisions are basically trying to get people invested in the idea of we are actively doing things. because a lot of cuts are happening behind the scenes, very visible ways the president can say if he actually gave up the holidays if he gave up the vacations which is costing the taxpayer hundreds of thousands of dollars, it might have more impact than a 5% and 400,000. last word to you elise. such a superficial move. i think it amounts to about $1,700 a month for him. that s nothing. he lives in one of the most posh places in the world with his every need taken care. and i just don t see why he thinks this one meaningless gesture is really going to resonate